Chester Zoo The Islands development - planning, development and build (2012-2015)

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Is George Mottershead turning in his grave?

I have just watched the relevant parts of 'The Planners' from last night on the i-Player (skipping the sections about Edinburgh and Tarporley). It was fairly superficial of course, but it did look at the situation in a balanced way. Simon Mann from the zoo was shown as a talking head explaining the developments, walking the site with a planning officer and then with an environmental expert (discussing protection measures for great crested newts).
The person who interested me was the leader of the protesters. He was shown looking out from his bedroom window (in Flag Lane North, I think). When he was interviewed he waved his hand towards the window and said that the plans would "change the view from all our windows". The view at which he was gesturing was just the tall hedge marking the zoo boundary on the other side of the road - which is not affected at all by the plans. He also described Islands as "basically a theme park ride" and said that he used to know George Mottershead and that he would be turning in his grave if he knew about the plans.
That got me thinking - I never met Mr Mottershead, although I did see him in his later years, driving around in the zoo in a yellow Ford Escort (if I remember correctly) - but what would he say about Islands?
I don't think he'd have any truck with the theme park ride comment: he started the waterbus rides around the zoo, and the Islands plans are essentially the same - just more animals and fancier boats.
In his day he was a bit of a showman: it is said that when he was taking visiting zoo directors around the zoo he would always escort them around the corner of the Tropical House (behind the modern hyacinthine macaw aviary) to the corner of the big chimp island where the moat is narrowest - so that his visitors would panic and think that the chimps had escaped ;). I'm not sure how far he would have bought into the immersive exhibit concept, but he would have totally supported the idea of giving the animals spacious and relatively natural enclosures.
He would, I'm sure, have been amazed by the cost of the whole thing and he might have looked at ways of economising by reducing the lifetime of the buildings and by using some summer bedding instead of all that expensive permanent planting (if SMR is reading this, he'll be nodding at this point :)).
I have no doubt that his final remark would be 'why do you think I bought all that land? Remember Chester Zoo is always building!'

Alan
 
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I liked the comment about having a family of orangutans as neighbours. "If only", I thought :)

Having had the misfortune to live near student halls of residence in the past, I had the feeling that the Edinburgh protestors would be watching and wishing they only had a zoo extension to worry about ;)
 
George Mottershead

I had the pleasure of working at Chester in the early 60's. My 'WOW' moment was in 1957 on my first visit, being confronted by the chimp group apparently sat in the grass ahead, no visible barrier,walking forward the moat became visible.
The only concern Motty would have now is the whole planning process. Plans were drawn on the back of cigarette packets and the planners invited to lunch to view what the zoo had built that year. We on the staff never heard of any problems. What a simpler world
 
I have just watched the relevant parts of 'The Planners' from last night on the i-Player (skipping the sections about Edinburgh and Tarporley). It was fairly superficial of course, but it did look at the situation in a balanced way. Simon Mann from the zoo was shown as a talking head explaining the developments, walking the site with a planning officer and then with an environmental expert (discussing protection measures for great crested newts).
The person who interested me was the leader of the protesters. He was shown looking out from his bedroom window (in Flag Lane North, I think). When he was interviewed he waved his hand towards the window and said that the plans would "change the view from all our windows". The view at which he was gesturing was just the tall hedge marking the zoo boundary on the other side of the road - which is not affected at all by the plans. He also described Islands as "basically a theme park ride" and said that he used to know George Mottershead and that he would be turning in his grave if he knew about the plans.
That got me thinking - I never met Mr Mottershead, although I did see him in his later years, driving around in the zoo in a yellow Ford Escort (if I remember correctly) - but what would he say about Islands?
I don't think he'd have any truck with the theme park ride comment: he started the waterbus rides around the zoo, and the Islands plans are essentially the same - just more animals and fancier boats.
In his day he was a bit of a showman: it is said that when he was taking visiting zoo directors around the zoo he would always escort them around the corner of the Tropical House (behind the modern hyacinthine macaw aviary) to the corner of the big chimp island where the moat is narrowest - so that his visitors would panic and think that the chimps had escaped ;). I'm not sure how far he would have bought into the immersive exhibit concept, but he would have totally supported the idea of giving the animals spacious and relatively natural enclosures.
He would, I'm sure, have been amazed by the cost of the whole thing and he might have looked at ways of economising by reducing the lifetime of the buildings and by using some summer bedding instead of all that expensive permanent planting (if SMR is reading this, he'll be nodding at this point :)).
I have no doubt that his final remark would be 'why do you think I bought all that land? Remember Chester Zoo is always building!'

Alan

You're quite right about George Mottershead having done just the same things decades ago... Boat ride, lots of open enclosures and the UK's biggest tropical house featuring apes! Having recently read June Williams' book about her father, George was an incredibly strong personality and his dedication and stubbornness were the main reasons the zoo survived a very difficult first few years. He was also more than happy to take on local residents when they objected to the zoo starting up and it's rapid expansion.

As an aside, I had to grin when I was looking at one of the resident's letters objecting to the planning application on-line. It was along the lines of 'Mr Mottershead would be turning in his grave', but the auto-correct function (or a lapse in concentration) had turned the name of the Zoo's founder to Mr Muttonhead!
 
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Quick update, the new perimeter fence is going up, you get a sense how big the delvelopment really is.
 
I'm sorry, did it say Indonesian rhinoceros at the end of that article? AS IN SUMATRAN RHINOCEROS?
 
It now says "Indonesian rhinoceros hornbill" - has it changed?

Yes, it was missing the 'hornbill' before - that seems much more sensible! :D
 
I think the person writing the article probably did actually think rhinos were in the plan, due to their own misreading of something. I don't see why the hornbill would've got a specific mention over all the other species planned!
 
Wish it hadn't been corrected yet; it would have been worth it for the reaction of Javan Rhino when he saw it ;)
 
Good to see a engineering company as big as them getting the work, shows how big a project Islands actually is.
 
Also in the #2 from June 2013 » Chester Zoo thread. Thanks to AdamD601 for posting there.

Chester Zoo Islands

This is a fantastic 'mini site' very well put together and will definitely satisfy the demand to follow progress.

it does look like it has been scaled down from the original plans...the Komodo House, Tapir enclosure and second Tiger exhibit and don't appear on the 3D plans. Anyone know if they are still planned in? Maybe there will be a 'phase 2' if not and they will be added in later? Or maybe I have not interpreted the 3D plan properly??

Also, says the Zoo will be announcing their 'back fill' plans for the enclosures vacated by the animals moving to Islands nearer the time.....

Anyone got any ideas what they will be?
 
Also, says the Zoo will be announcing their 'back fill' plans for the enclosures vacated by the animals moving to Islands nearer the time.....

Anyone got any ideas what they will be?

Well Bornean Orangs aren't down as going into Islands as far as I am aware so I presume they will stay in RoRA and take up some of the Sumatran exhibits considering they still only have the old Orang house for an indoor exhibit.

A lot of the exhibits that would be left empty (that's if they actually are left empty) are fairly old (e.g. Tapir side of the cattle house, current tiger exhibit) and I doubt that they would have permanent occupants again in the future.

This is mostly speculation on my behalf, I obviously don't know what is going to happen but this is just how I might expect things to pan out.
 
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