Toronto Zoo Toronto Zoo Discussion Thread 2025

Might be ending up at the zoo on Saturday, and seeing as I will be making the venture alone and thus have time to go opening to closing at the zoo, I have a few questions:

- As she is the only species that I have never once photographed, are there any particular times to visit the Australasia Pavilion which will give me a high(er) chance of spotting Annie the ever-elusive echidna?
- Also Australasia-related, are the kooks living in the demoiselle aviary?
- Are the peafowl still living in the Lemur Summer Home, or have they been relocated to allow the lemurs to get their outdoor time?
- Is anyone aware of when the last ZooMobile run leaves the main station? Was planning on hopping on at least twice during my visit, once for sure to close out my day.
- Are any notable species currently off-display? I have heard about the Spectacled Owl (unfortunate that I won't see them), but wanted to know of any others.

around 4/4:30 they put out food inAnnie's(echidna) feeder. Any time after that til close she will come out. And since they've fixed Annie's foot my goodness she is full of life after she eats. I used to struggle seeing her when I first started going but once I popped in the pavillion in the evening one night I took note. So yes she will come out but just for food. Always a pleasure to see her though!
 
Might be ending up at the zoo on Saturday, and seeing as I will be making the venture alone and thus have time to go opening to closing at the zoo, I have a few questions:

- As she is the only species that I have never once photographed, are there any particular times to visit the Australasia Pavilion which will give me a high(er) chance of spotting Annie the ever-elusive echidna?
- Also Australasia-related, are the kooks living in the demoiselle aviary?
- Are the peafowl still living in the Lemur Summer Home, or have they been relocated to allow the lemurs to get their outdoor time?
- Is anyone aware of when the last ZooMobile run leaves the main station? Was planning on hopping on at least twice during my visit, once for sure to close out my day.
- Are any notable species currently off-display? I have heard about the Spectacled Owl (unfortunate that I won't see them), but wanted to know of any others.
Apparently Annie likes to come out around 5:30pm but sometimes comes out a little earlier than that so you may want to make her your last visit.
 
Might be ending up at the zoo on Saturday, and seeing as I will be making the venture alone and thus have time to go opening to closing at the zoo, I have a few questions:

- As she is the only species that I have never once photographed, are there any particular times to visit the Australasia Pavilion which will give me a high(er) chance of spotting Annie the ever-elusive echidna?
- Also Australasia-related, are the kooks living in the demoiselle aviary?
- Are the peafowl still living in the Lemur Summer Home, or have they been relocated to allow the lemurs to get their outdoor time?
- Is anyone aware of when the last ZooMobile run leaves the main station? Was planning on hopping on at least twice during my visit, once for sure to close out my day.
- Are any notable species currently off-display? I have heard about the Spectacled Owl (unfortunate that I won't see them), but wanted to know of any others.

- Everyone I've known who has seen Annie has seen her late afternoon, close to closing time. As far as I know that's consistently when she's most active
- The Kookaburra live in the Demoiselle aviary, yes
- The peafowl are still in the Lemur Summer Home. Ever since one of the lemur troops got sent to Assiniboine, I don't believe the remaining lemurs have left the Rainforest
- The big one I can think of is that the female herd of bison are currently off exhibit, as of last week. I asked a keeper and I believe it's for maintenance on the habitat
 
I thought that it may be of interest that on my last two visits (last Tuesday and Friday) Zwalani (new male silverback gorilla) was on exhibit in the day room. The brothers were inside, but no sign of the girls outside, but it would make sense to give them somewhat of a break after the first round of introductions didn’t go too well.
 
The zoo has also made a slight upgrade to the zoos website with the animal list. Large photos and now it says directly in the animal list which species may not be viewable, in addition to the alerts area.

I also think they have added a lot of species here as well now which is fantastic to see.
 
Made my second zoo trip of the year yesterday, most things were as they always were but there are a couple things I’d consider highlights (or lowlights, though there’s only really one of those).
My lone “lowlight,” I once again missed Annie. Waited by her habitat for roughly my last hour at the zoo and didn’t see her. Meanwhile every other species I hadn’t seen to that point (namely the Crimson Rosella and African Spurred Tortoise) were both visible which was nice.
One of the red pandas was at ground level for the first time in recent memory for me. Felt incredibly weird actually having a decent view of a red panda, though the other one was sitting up above in a tree as is typical.
Saw some kind of pigeon perched on the tall tree right beside the aviary with the bats and the hamerkop/behind the ibis and spoonbill habitat. It was from a distance but I almost thought it could be a Triangular-spotted Pigeon. Additionally it seemed like there was a large group of a smaller songbird free-flying that atrium as well, unsure on the species. Meanwhile I couldn’t spot the Blue-bellied Roller which the website said is viewable.
Lloyd was perched on the feeding structure that is front and centre from the savanna overlook behind the African Rainforest Pavilion, until a pair of the ground hornbills decided to give him a bit of a hard time and chase him back to his usual perch out of view from the two main viewing areas on the kudu habitat.
Kembali and Jingga were outside, though I only saw Jingga actually exploring the outdoor space.
Vishnu was outside, something I hadn’t gotten to see in several visits.
Invertebrates inside the Malayan Woods Pavilion had some shuffling done. The Bush Katydid and Giant Shield Mantis were not on-display, though the signage for the former was present on the tank which was housing the Peacock Tarantula, while the tank that formerly housed the latter was housing a not-seen Asian Millipede.
The Crested Pigeons were not present in the Australasia aviary (which seemed generally unpopulated for some reason), however there was one individual in the Indo-Malaya aviary.
And lastly a possible overreaction, but I think I may have seen nesting behaviour between two of the African Penguins. I’ll attach a photo below but one of the two individuals was actually laying down in a little divot in front of the rock wall, and the other was particularly defensive and almost aggressive toward the cormorant, though the cormorant did seem to be instigating a slight bit.
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Overall, I think the only species I didn’t see at any point throughout the day were the lions, Annie, the Bennett’s wallabies, and the caribou, though I expected nothing less from the caribou in all honesty.
Unrelated (and jokingly, for the most part), but has anyone ever seen the Stimson’s Python anywhere but wedged in that little log in its exhibit?
 

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@Van Beal the wallabies are definitely gone. The girls were shipped to Granby earlier in the year, maybe late last year. Another species bites the dust.
Truly a shame. I always enjoyed trying to spot both species in the walkthrough (heck, I misidentified a Western Gray at a distance from the non-walkthrough viewing), and always thought having both made the walkthrough more fun overall.
Although by the info on the website saying they had plans to drop the species count down to 175 (as said here: Toronto Zoo | Strategic Plan) species, I imagine phase-outs like this are going to start coming hard and fast sooner than later.
One last question... website says Blue-bellied Roller is back on display... are they in the aviary with the Hamerkop and the bats or are they somewhere else? Asking because it was another species I wanted to see but didn't get to.
 
@Van Beal the list of species has been plummeting for years now. Some of those will come at the cost of things we never even paid attention to and wont notice missing, bugs, fish, probably amphibians, reptiles, and small birds. The past few years have been harsh with about a dozen species lost a year. This year I only know of 4, but probably are more amongst the easy to miss.

I have no clue where the roller is. He used to be free flying because he escaped and they couldnt get him back in a carrier to return to the exhibit. Maybe they finally did. But if so no clue where they would house him. I would still look up in the rafters just in case hes still loose.
 
@Van Beal the list of species has been plummeting for years now. Some of those will come at the cost of things we never even paid attention to and wont notice missing, bugs, fish, probably amphibians, reptiles, and small birds. The past few years have been harsh with about a dozen species lost a year. This year I only know of 4, but probably are more amongst the easy to miss.

I have no clue where the roller is. He used to be free flying because he escaped and they couldnt get him back in a carrier to return to the exhibit. Maybe they finally did. But if so no clue where they would house him. I would still look up in the rafters just in case hes still loose.
What are the four species gone this year? Besides the wallaby the only one that I saw reason to be concerned about was the Puerto Rican crested toad, of all species. Their exhibit wasn’t lit and was totally empty.
 
Another one is the scarlet ibis which were in the Australasia pavilion aviary before they left. There may another (perhaps Americas) species that left from there but I’m not sure.
 
I knew about the spectacled owl but I didn’t mention that species because as far as we know the species is still physically at the zoo. I thought there might have been another Americas species that was moved out of the Australasia pavilion aviary with/around the same time as the ibis but I could be wrong.
 
I knew about the spectacled owl but I didn’t mention that species because as far as we know the species is still physically at the zoo. I thought there might have been another Americas species that was moved out of the Australasia pavilion aviary with/around the same time as the ibis but I could be wrong.
Afaik the ibises were the only non-Australasian birds in that aviary. Though that aviary did seem particularly devoid of life which was odd. Only spotted the Nicobars, the Rosella and Galah, and then a pair of Victoria Crowned Pigeons... Erkle is still there as far as I'm aware and is very seldom easy to see. As for the Scarlet-chested Parrot I really don't know.
 
The four species I know were phased out are the Bennett's Wallabies, Whites Tree Frogs, Moose and Himalayan Tahr. I think the Barbary sheep are gone too but I cannot confirm nor can I say when the last two passed if thats the case. Im not exactly sure when the Scarlet Ibis left.

To Be Phased Out... that I know of.
Warthogs - this is a new addition to the list.
River Hippos - They will be here for some time to come as no one wants them.
Mouflon - would be gone if we hadnt rescued that herd.
Serval - shes a rescue that cant be moved but shes a senior who will never be on display.
Lion Tailed Macaque - down to one or maybe two, I think one
Clouded Leopard - no plans to replace.
Indian Rhino - Vishnu could leave as soon as a non SSP home is found.
White Lion - will be replaced with normal tawnies when the time comes.
Domestic Yak
Olive Baboon
Bettong
Naked Mole Rat
Red-legged Seriema

In Question
Sacred Ibis - we dropped to a female only flock or soon will
Kudu - girls are getting old for kudu, even Roux isnt far from not being considered for breeding.
Great Hornbill - who knows what happens when Jonah finally passes.
Sumatran Tiger - I have heard both they are staying and being phased out so who knows. Why go to all the expense of their new exhibits if you werent keeping them? They are both in their late teens.
Burmese Brown Mountain Tortoise - We are to breed or send them away to breed.
Babirusa - I think they are on the fence about what to do when Olive passes.
Capybara - we were to get a new male about 2 years ago seeing as he hasnt come and we havent tried to get a friend for Tootsie I wouldnt be surprised if we phased out but I didnt think we would get her so who knows.
Spider Monkey - I didnt even think we would get the girls back. I wouldn't be surprised to see them pass and not be replaced.
Caribou - down to 4 so what are they planning?
Tur - please zoo gods let them be considering phasing them out... please!!!
Echidna - what will we do when Annie passes? Shes not had a partner since Norman passed over 10 years ago.
Wombat - I dont know that when the day finally comes for them that we will get more. If we could get a joey that might go a long way to keeping them. We have only ever had one. Matilba's great grandma.
 
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