I think they did breed at least once I vaguely remember a board with photos of the birth which took place in the outside paddock.Which as we know is no longer there as the new elephant hose and exhibits have been built there.
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I think they did breed at least once I vaguely remember a board with photos of the birth which took place in the outside paddock.Which as we know is no longer there as the new elephant hose and exhibits have been built there.
Lots of South American Tapirs were bred in that enclosure, the only birth of a Malayan Tapir that I know of was on 16 January 1973 when a male was stillborn. The mother was at least 12 years old at the time.
I have a photo from 1979 and the female looked heavily pregnant, but I cannot recall any mention of a birth.
I have a feeling that wouldn't stop Twycross. The Scottish Wild Cat label had a two-foot-high picture of a Fishing Cat on it for months...
I don't know of any other new exhibits (barring the entrance complex) so I guess Sri Lankan Experience is the Asian carnivores area, and zoogeography be damned.
zoogiraffe
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To the best of my knowledge the Lions and Dhole are going to be part of the Sri Lankan Experience what else did you expect after the Bornean Longhouse Aviary with species of bird from every where but Borneo in it!!!!!!!!!!
taun
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The place does keep you on your toes!
Am visiting the place again in the summer and hope to see some improvements (but I doubt it).
And unfortunately the stillbirth occurred a few months afte the male died so there were no further births.
Twycross did breed at least one Malayan tapir in the 70s. Its in the book "Chimps With everything" and it has been discussed on various threads on here before
See my earlier post , I am almost certain that the female Peggity was born and reared at Twycross , all other births have been unsuccessful .
taun
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in my opinion twycross is pants as a zoo. most of the enclosures need updating. i went there in december & the pair of amur leopards were father & son. the 3 lions were all females & they claimed that they were part of a breeding programme!
They are but they lost the female leopard just after cubs are born and will be allocated a new female once one of the males have been moved on but this is down to the studbook keeper.
The lions, well not every zoo can be breeding and am sure once the new enclosure is built they will acquire a new male.
Just because they don't have a male and female pair doesn't mean they are not contributing, as there is a need for holding facilities as well as breeding groups.
In the case of Twycross zoo there are absolutely valid reasons why the current tally is non-paired Amur leopards and Asian lions. What some seem to forget that those species are not exactly bred as a production line - that does not happen in wild either -. Besides, in a zoo environment we can make more informed decisions on which pairings are genetically suitable and relevant to the managed population.
For both aforementioned species it is not easy to find a suitable genetically distinct suitors: in the Amur leopard females are in shorter supply anyway + the number of possible founders is limited and in the case of the Asian lions it is the limited number of founders and the factual need for introduction of new Asian lion founders into the European population.
So, get real out there (not everything you wish for can be realistically achieved FOR NOW)!
For both aforementioned species it is not easy to find a suitable genetically distinct suitors: in the Amur leopard females are in shorter supply anyway + the number of possible founders is limited and in the case of the Asian lions it is the limited number of founders and the factual need for introduction of new Asian lion founders into the European population.
So, get real out there (not everything you wish for can be realistically achieved FOR NOW)!
taun
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In the case of Twycross zoo there are absolutely valid reasons why the current tally is non-paired Amur leopards and Asian lions. What some seem to forget that those species are not exactly bred as a production line - that does not happen in wild either -. Besides, in a zoo environment we can make more informed decisions on which pairings are genetically suitable and relevant to the managed population.
For both aforementioned species it is not easy to find a suitable genetically distinct suitors: in the Amur leopard females are in shorter supply anyway + the number of possible founders is limited and in the case of the Asian lions it is the limited number of founders and the factual need for introduction of new Asian lion founders into the European population.
So, get real out there (not everything you wish for can be realistically achieved FOR NOW)!
Much better put than my feeble attempt
Although everyone is slagging twycross off, they have at least bred something recently...
Sadly its not a primate or anythin they are "renowned" for but have bred Humbolts Penguins!!!
Twycross Zoo Main Home Page
Sadly its not a primate or anythin they are "renowned" for but have bred Humbolts Penguins!!!
Twycross Zoo Main Home Page
zoogiraffe
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Although Twycross is by no means perfect it is not the WORST zoo in the U.K by along way,before you go slandering the zoo i suggest you visit a few of the other zoos in the U.K and you will see that Twycross as actually alot better than you think.Just for the Record i have visited over 250 collections in the U.K and over 50 in Europe and have seen some awfull collections amongst that lot but then you called think what i thought was crap you may think is the best place you`ve ever visited.in my opinion twycross is pants as a zoo. most of the enclosures need updating. i went there in december & the pair of amur leopards were father & son. the 3 lions were all females & they claimed that they were part of a breeding programme!
Also i suggest you learn to count as Twycross only have 2 female Lions but that will change when the new enclosure is built over the back of the Elephants paddock,and just a question for you which zoo holds the stud-book for Asian Lions??????
sorry if anyone was offended by my previous post but thats my opinion.
i know twycross is a relatively good zoo and there are worse zoos in the country and world. i also know about them building the new lion enclosure as it was mentioned quite a lot last time i went. out of the zoos i have been to twycross isnt very high on my list of good zoos. my opinion again
i know twycross is a relatively good zoo and there are worse zoos in the country and world. i also know about them building the new lion enclosure as it was mentioned quite a lot last time i went. out of the zoos i have been to twycross isnt very high on my list of good zoos. my opinion again
It`s completely ok that you don`t like Twycross- that`s your opinion and you have every right to it. I havn`t been there yet but from the pics I´ve seen and what I know about their elephant and gorilla breeding policy, I don`t think I`ll like it very much, either.
But it`s a different thing to make accusations like about the lions and leopards when you have no information about the reasons why they are not paired at the moment. I suggest that the next time, you ask first and leave the accusations for later, when you have all the informations together to make an informed statement.
But it`s a different thing to make accusations like about the lions and leopards when you have no information about the reasons why they are not paired at the moment. I suggest that the next time, you ask first and leave the accusations for later, when you have all the informations together to make an informed statement.
zoogiraffe
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Don`t worry i wasn`t offended its just that Twycross comes in for alot of stick some of it justified but alot of it isn`t,yes the enclosures might not be the greatest but the animals are all very well cared for and looked after.Just for the record Twycross Zoo hold the stud-book for Asian Lions
JonnyS18
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Your quite right i've heard this before on video footage from the Wildlife Heritage foundation in Kent, but does anyone know why this happens? For a critically endangered species to breed a higher percentage of one gender than another..?? For example
all of the Marwell zoo's amur leopard litters have contained only female cubs, & the Audubon zoo all the way in New Orleans have a leopard pair that have had 4 litters & all of the five surviving offspring have been female! And yet European zoo's in particular apparently have a lower female population than male... why though!??