Uk help to find

monkeyarmy said:
I don't understand why they wouldn't put their full collection, I'm now more inclined to visit.
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They publish an Annual inventory listing all of the animals in the ZSL collections. It'd be a lot of work to illustrate every taxon online and keep the pages updated - not to mention it might be daunting for members of the public. :)
 
Many thanks to everyone who helped me before and I managed to get around 75% of the species mentioned either on film or by Photograph

I now have one question (I would use Zootierliste but UK side a little unsure) What Hornbills are kept in UK Public captive collections I do know of 5 Private collections that hold some Hornbill species many thanks
 
Tim May said:
Not quite true; there was a short-lived golden snub-nosed monkey at London Zoo before World War 2
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TeaLovingDave said:
Very interesting :) that will need adding to ZTL then!
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Further to my earlier post:-

The Zoological Society of London Annual Report for 1939 records that a golden snub-nosed monkey was received that year; according to this report it was the first time the species had been represented in the London Zoo collection.

I believe that this animal was brought to London by Floyd Tangier Smith (who supplied London Zoo’s first giant pandas in December 1938).
 
If I remember rightly,this would be the animal referred to in Desmond Morris's 'Men and Pandas', was actually dying when Floyd Tangier Smith brought it into the country.
 
Did they have them in 2010 then? As that location would make sense, as I remember seeing them after the Maned Wolves.
 
The following Hornbill species are not listed in any UK collections on Zootierliste web site, I was wondering if any of them are in the UK and have been overlooked or not put on the web site.

African Pied hornbill
Bornean rhinoceros hornbill
Borneo wreathed hornbill
Brown-cheeked hornbill
Bushy-crested hornbill
Eastern grey-cheeked hornbill
Eastern Long-tailed hornbill
Eastern piping or Sharp's piping hornbill
Eastern Yellow-billed or Northern Yellow-billed hornbill
Great wreathed hornbill
Greater New Guinea hornbill
Grey-cheeked or Black-and-white casqued hornbill
Helmeted or Great Helmeted hornbill
Hemprich`s Hornbill
Indian grey hornbill
Jackson's hornbill
Lesser New Guinea hornbill
Luzon or Luzon tarictic hornbill
Malabar grey hornbill
Malabar pied or Indian pied hornbill
Mindanao or Mindanao tarictic hornbill
Monteiro`s hornbill
New Guinea hornbill
Northern pied hornbill
Northern Red-billed hornbill
Oriental or Malaysian pied hornbill
Palawan hornbill
Piping hornbill
Plain-pouched hornbill
Polillo hornbill or Polillo tarictic hornbill
Rhinoceros or Great Rhinoceros hornbill
Rufous or Great Philippine hornbill
Rufous-necked hornbill
Samar or Samar tarictic hornbill
Samar rufous hornbill
Southern grey hornbill
Southern or Sunda pied hornbill
Southern red billed hornbill
Southern yellow-billed hornbill
Sri Lanka grey or Ceylon grey-hornbill
Sulawesi knobbed hornbill
Tanzanian red-billed hornbill
Tarictic hornbill
Tickell's or Southern brown hornbill
West African pied hornbill
Western grey-cheeked hornbill
Western long-tailed hornbill
Western Long-tailed or White-crested hornbill
Western piping hornbill
Western red-billed hornbill
White-crowned or Long-crested hornbill
White-thighed hornbill
Wreathed hornbill
Yellow-casqued or Yellow-casqued wattled hornbill
 
FBBird said:
If I remember rightly,this would be the animal referred to in Desmond Morris's 'Men and Pandas', was actually dying when Floyd Tangier Smith brought it into the country.
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Floyd Tangier Smith and his golden snub-nosed monkey were both ill with TB when they arrived in London.
 
adrian1963 said:
The following Hornbill species are not listed in any UK collections on Zootierliste web site, I was wondering if any of them are in the UK and have been overlooked or not put on the web site.

Greater New Guinea hornbill
Lesser New Guinea hornbill
New Guinea hornbill
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ZTL seems to take an 'ultra-splitters' approach to Rhyticeros plicatus. Many authorities don't recognise the subspecies as valid, as "variation appears to be largely clinal, with overlap in size and colours" (HBW). So the Papuan Hornbills in Britain could belong to one or more of these supposed subspecies.
[I also don't know why ZTL uses the name 'New Guinea hornbill' for dampieri - which isn't found on the mainland of New Guinea, but on the islands of the Bismarck Archipelago]
I'd advise folk not to treat ZTL as though it were the unquestionable Word of God.
 
I use ZTL as a guide these days as there are too many mistakes especially in the UK collections.

Also there are a lot of the smaller collections not even mentioned in the UK section, that was why I opened a thread on small collections in the UK forum.

Anyway many thanks for your info MikeG
 
adrian1963 said:
I use ZTL as a guide these days as there are too many mistakes especially in the UK collections.

Also there are a lot of the smaller collections not even mentioned in the UK section, that was why I opened a thread on small collections in the UK forum.

Anyway many thanks for your info MikeG
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Mostly because certain individuals whom I will not mention keep deleting anything they have not seen personally, or which are not mentioned on the collection website :p
 
That would be a question for the ZTL administrators I suppose :p though you never know, maybe now I've called them out obliquely they might actually stop doing it.
 
I know it has been 11 years, and 5 since the latest message on this, but I thought it would be interesting to see how the species fare in the UK now.
ARABIAN LEOPARD - None in UK, all held in European zoos now reside in the UAE.
ERMINE - Wildwood and the British Wildlife Centre.
WESTERN SPOTTED SKUNK - None in Europe. The Eastern Spotted Skunk resides at the "Arche Noah Zoo" in Germany.
GRIZZLY BEAR - None in UK, all Grizzlies in Europe now reside in Bulgaria and Germany.
WATER MONGOOSE - None in UK, last animal in UK died at Curraghs Wildlife Park in 2016. 2 zoos in Germany are now the only European zoos holding the individual.
SMALL SPOTTED GENET - An alternate term for the Common Genet. The subspecies are spread across a number of UK and Europe Zoos. The so called "European" Genet can be found at 7 zoos in the UK.
DINGO - Until fairly recently, the taxon was unrepresented in UK collections. Can now be found at Hamerton.
ARCTIC FOX - Held in 7 collections across the UK, notably Hoo Farm and Highland Wildlife Park.
BOBCAT - Formerly dotted across a number of UK zoos, now is absent from UK collections. 25 zoos in Europe now keep the species.
SAND CAT - Exmoor.
SCOTTISH WILDCAT - Held across 24 zoos in the UK, notably Edinburgh and Wildwood.
CLOUDED LEOPARD - Held at 6 zoos in the UK, notably Cotswold and Howletts.
COUGAR - Held at 7 zoos in the UK, notably Exmoor and Amazona.
GIANT PANGOLIN - None in Europe, Leipzig in Germany seems to have been holding a stable population of the Chinese Pangolin for 12 years.
GROUNDHOG - None in UK, last held in the 1980's by Chester Zoo. 3 zoos now hold the species across the Czech Republic and Germany.
PREHENSILE – TAILED TREE PORCUPINE - Held at 3 collections in the UK, notably Hemsley and Longleat.
VICUNA - Held at 8 collections in the UK, notably Twycross and Port Lympne.
MOOSE - Alces Alces is held at 5 collections in the UK, notably Longleat and Highland.
PRONGHORN - None in Europe, last animal held in Europe was in Germany in the 1970's.
YAK - Held at 7 collections in the UK, notably Whipsnade and Highland.
GREATER KUDU - Held at 5 collections in the UK, notably Howletts and Colchester.
INDIAN BLACKBUCK - Held at 8 collections in the UK, notably both of Aspinall's two parks.
MUSK OX - Highland.
SPECTACLED HARE WALLABY - None in Europe, last held in Frankfurt in the very early 1900's.
NUMBAT - None in Europe.
AYE - AYE - Held at 4 zoos in the UK, notably Chester and Bristol.
OLIVE BABOON - Knowsley.
SHOEBILL - None in UK, held at 3 collections in Europe, notably Praha and Walsrode.
SCARLET IBIS - A fairly common species in European collections.
MARABOU STORK - Also fairly common.
GOLDEN EAGLE - Rarely represented in mainstream zoos, but popular in falconaries.
STELLER’S SEA EAGLE - As per Golden Eagle, rare in mainstream zoos, popular in falconaries.
HARPY’S EAGLE - None in UK, 2 zoos in Germany hold this animal, Berlin and Nurnberg.
TAKAHE - None in Europe.
HOATZIN - None in Europe, only ever pops up occasionally in collections. The sole holding of this animal in Europe was in 1931 at London.
RESPLENDENT QUETZAL - None in Europe. The Golden Headed Quetzal is held at Walsrode. The Crested Quetzal was held for a span of 7 years at Amazon World Zoo Park.
YELLOW – BILLED OXPECKER - None in Europe. Formerly held by 1950's London.
KOALA - Held in Edinburgh, and now Longleat.
ARCTIC WOLF - Held at 5 collections in the UK, notably Five Sisters and Wolf Conservation Trust.
Information sourced from Zootierliste.de/en
 
dillotest0 said:
HOATZIN - None in Europe, only ever pops up occasionally in collections. The sole holding of this animal in Europe was in 1931 at London.
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London Zoo's first hoatzin was acquired in 1931 but it wasn't the "sole holding in Europe".
London Zoo also had the species in 1955.
 
I believe there are some Bobcat left in the UK, all private. I'm sure someone like @TeaLovingDave can confirm :)
 
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