Vegetarian?

Vegetarian?


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@sun wukong: an unkind person might suggest that you resemble a caveman both in your diet and your attitude to women. I don't know you so I won't.

Assuming that you are not a unkind person, I hereby forgive you this hardly concealed personal insult. Actually, calling me a caveman is quite a compliment, as it implies that I'm more pristine, natural, robust, survivable and in line with nature and myself than the average pampered niminy-piminy modern Homo sapiens sapiens. Thank you!:D

@Paix: To cut your lamentation short: did I (or anyone else here) "force meat upon" you (other than the elephant joke)? When & where exactly did that happen?

@Zooplantman: Was "Post 48" (I love that expression-sound's almost like the already mentioned "Permit 38" ...;)) really "unnecessarily rude and provocative"? Or was it an apt reply to an unnecessary post that had the intention to provoke? Think about it.
 
@Paix: To cut your lamentation short: did I (or anyone else here) force meat upon you? When & where exactly did that happen?

I did not mean that you (or other members) have forced meat upon me, I really have worded this wrong though. I meant people have strongly worded their opinions (directed at other people, keep that in mind) that have implied people should eat meat.

If this has not happened I am sorry, I must of imagined it. Although I must add, some of your posts on this thread have been quite offensive and forceful. I guess the nice way to describe you is "very forward" in what you say and do. Sort of.
 
I meant people have strongly worded their opinions (directed at other people, keep that in mind) that have implied people should eat meat.

Why shouldn't people that like to eat meat word their opinion, and imply that people should eat meat, just like others imply that people should lead a vegetarian lifestyle? Everyone stresses here again and again the importance of accepting each other's opinion, whether you like it or not...

Anyway, apology accepted. And in regard to:
some of your posts on this thread have been quite offensive and forceful. I guess the nice way to describe you is "very forward" in what you say and do. Sort of.
I've learned that it is usually better to be honest and direct (and sometimes not so deadly serious) in addressing something than to beat around the bush and then fall for backstabbing.
 
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Yes it is a generalisation and indeed it is prejudice. You have your own notion of what a large group is like based upon your own small experience.

A scientist does not simply put out an unsubstantiated hypothesis and declare it to be true until contradicted, he/she produces at least some convincing supportive evidence.

You are confusing knowledge with experience. If I read about the experiences of an eminent scientist (or anything else for that matter) whom I trust then my knowledge has increased, but his personal experiences do not become mine.

To get back to one of your earlier points: I certainly don't feel that captive carnivorous animals should be deprived of meat, but then I am not a vegetarian.

I still do not follow why I am getting such hard time over that statement. If it is a generalisation, it is one of hundreds made on here every day.

I'm not going to continue the semantic/definition discussion (partly because I feel that while I know what I'm trying to say, every time I post I only seem to muddy the water further, and it's derailing a very interesting thread!). My final comment will be to say that if I can't form an opinion based on what I have observed (better word, I think, than experienced) then I do not know what on Earth I am supposed to base it on, and that if that opinion were to be later shown to be wrong, I would gladly amend it! :)
 
Thanks, but believe me, I am not always mature.

Oh I know! I read some of your other posts :p

Neither am I

As a wise man once said,

The Fourth Doctor (Who) said:
What's the point of being a grown-up if you can't be childish sometimes?



I completely agree with this whole post, and I think this is the most valuable thing that has been posted on this thread!

Thanks - that was before I tied myself up in knots!


But one of the main reasons why I dont eat animals is mainly because I dont like the taste

Actually, that's also a fair reason for not eating meat - similarly, I never eat mushrooms or anything with a higher percentage egg than a quiche.

Which I usually (if inaccurately) sum up as 'no fungus or placenta for me, please'.
 
ah, the tyranny of distance. I go to sleep for the night and while I'm in slumber three pages get added to the thread :D
Maguari said:
I have no problems with eating any animal - with just three caveats:

1) They should be reared and despatched as humanely as possible (while I am pro-meat, I am anti hunting with hounds, for example)

2) They should not be from endangered species (although I am very happy to eat rare domestic breeds, as eating them encourages their commercial breeding and actually increases their security!)

3) They should not be humans! (Chlidonias' societal convention kicks in!)
those are exactly my own caveats. Of course I don't really eat human flesh (although should my arm be severed in a horrible accident and be unable to be reattached then I would have no qualms about cooking it up and partaking......I'm not sure of the legalities of eating one's own body parts though....)

re the eating of wild animals, I only eat those that are common and/or sustainably harvested. The only exception I may make to this rule is should I be staying in a tribal village in some distant land where the residents live by hunting-gathering, in which case the animal they are cooking may be deemed acceptable (so long as its not a saola or dingiso:)). I certainly would never order a "wild" dish at a restaurant unless it was farmed or from a sustainable harvest.
 
Paix said:
I am shaking my head in disbelief because this is exactly what this has turned into, a school yard tussle. None of my friends, all be it alot of them non-vegetarian seem interested in my diet, they do not try and force meat upon me, they also do not try and tell me how their diet is much healthier!
I don't think anyone here is trying to force meat-eating onto others, any more than anyone is trying to force vegetarianism onto others. Mostly its been light-hearted "poking-of-the-fun". In fact a number of posters have said it is really irrelevant to them whether others are vegetarian or non-vegetarian.

Quick question though: do vegetarians really label themselves "veggies" for short, as at least one person here has done?
 
Chlidonias said:
Quick question though: do vegetarians really label themselves "veggies" for short, as at least one person here has done?

I confess to being the one person
 
I'm not vegetarian. I'm not that fond of most vegetables and fruit, but I can eat meat in endless amounts. And I love red steaks :D If you someday see me in a zoo, it'll probably be in the carnivore and not the primate section ;)

I do have standards about meat, though. I only eat domestic animals and animals that have been killed for food legally. And while I love fish, I won't eat threatened fish like atlantic cods (Danes eat them in large amounts, and everytime I try to explain they're vulnerable in the wild, I get scorned).
 
Grew up eating stock we killed. I give blood as does my cousin who is a vegetarian - My cousin had to stop for a while because her iron levels were too low, mine have always been fine.
I don't like fish but love most other seafoods. Kangaroo isn't too bad, neither is croc or camel but I like beef the best.
 
I voted for "I Eat Meat". Cant beat good old sausages/steak from a cow or a kangaroo!

I had a kangaroo burger once and wasn't too taken with it. Springbok, on the other hand, is very tasty. And so is ostrich.
 
I had a kangaroo burger once and wasn't too taken with it. Springbok, on the other hand, is very tasty. And so is ostrich.

The sausages are prob. the best type of meat to eat from a kangaroo. I actually wouldnt mind travelling the world eating delicacies from different countries (when im older that is).
 
Haven't had kangaroo or ostrich, but alligator is very tasty!
I've actually eaten snails once too, a long time ago.
 
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