What would you like to see in the UK?

Frogmouths are a danger to precocial newborns/hatchlings then. Shame because I am fond of them: and like owls its fun to spot them by day. Seems like a lot of the Australian fauna besides macropods are unsuited to this kind of thing.

How are common wombat with other marsupials?
 
Tim May said:
ZooTierListe is a great resource but it needs to be used with caution. I am sure, for example, that the claim on ZooTierListe that London Zoo received a Sulawesi tarsier in 1930 is fallacious. The ZSL Annual Report for 1930 year does not list a tarsier arriving that year.

Moreover, the ZSL report for 1948 lists the arrival of a trio of Philippine tarsiers and records these as not only a species but also a genus new to the collection – which indicates there wasn’t a tarsier there eighteen years earlier.
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I was just re-reading the thread. The 1930 date comes from the book "Tarsiers: Past, Present, and Future". I checked this and it says:

"The International Zoo Yearbook (Jarvis and Morris, 1960) lists three Tarsius spectrum that were at the London Zoo between 1930 and 1960, and one of these lived nearly three years."

If someone has access to that volume they could check it. I suspect it may have been an article about something like "primates kept between 1930 and 1960" or similar, without specific dates given for the tarsiers. (Although I can't see any articles which look likely in that volume: International Zoo Yearbook - Issue - Wiley Online Library)
 
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Chlidonias said:
If someone has access to that volume they could check it. I suspect it may have been an article about something like "primates kept between 1930 and 1960" or similar, without specific dates given for the tarsiers. (Although I can't see any articles which look likely in that volume: International Zoo Yearbook - Issue - Wiley Online Library)
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rechecking the bibliography in the tarsier book the page number for the IZY reference is 288. Volume one of the IZY (1960) doesn't have that many pages, so I looked at Volume two (1961) and on pages 288-299 is an article entitled "Longevity Survey: length of life of mammals in captivity at the London Zoo and Whipsnade Park". So that's the article which needs to be consulted.

Only the first page of the article is shown on the provided link, but it clearly shows from the part of the table viewable that there are no individual dates provided. It is simply species kept between 1930 and 1960.
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I think the three specimens which would be listed are the Philippine Tarsiers noted by @Tim May as having arrived in 1948, which presumably have been given an incorrect name on the table (the part of the table including the tarsiers is not shown on the link above). It can be noted from information in the tarsier book that the name T. spectrum was sometimes applied regardless of animals' origins. I also found a Pathe video showing London's animals labelled as "Malayan Tarsiers".
 
Chlidonias said:
I suspect it may have been an article about something like "primates kept between 1930 and 1960" or similar, without specific dates given for the tarsiers. (Although I can't see any articles which look likely in that volume: International Zoo Yearbook - Issue - Wiley Online Library)
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When I made my original post, I hadn't seen the book "Tarsiers: Past, Present and Future"; I now have a copy of this volume and, as you mention, it refers to an article published in the International Zoo Yearbook and comments that three tarsiers were at the zoo between 1930 & 1960, one of which lived nearly three years.

The article referred to is "Longevity Survey: Length of Life of Mammals in Captivity at the London Zoo and Whipsnade Park”; the contents of which are based on the ZSL Records for the years 1930 to 1960.

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This is obviously where ZooTierlist got the date 1930 from ….

EDIT:- Sorry crossed with recent post from "Chlidonias".
 
that link has some neat animals on it, by the way.

Moon Rat for 55 months. Aye-Aye for 36 months. Red Uakari for one month. Douc for 4 months. Three species of pangolin (Malayan Pangolin lasting 0 months). Otter Civet for 5 months. Marbled Cat for 2 months. African Golden Cat for 17 months. Tibetan Fox for 65 months. Giant Forest Hog for 9 months.
 
Chlidonias said:
African Golden Cat for 17 months.
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Question for @Tim May (and it also relates back to this other thread: Gerald Durrell's African Golden Cat).

Do you know the dates for the two African Golden Cats mentioned in that longevity list? One appears to have died pretty much straight away, and the other lasted 17 months. I know in the Durrell thread you said there were no African Golden Cats listed as being acquired by London Zoo at the time of Durrell's expedition, but I'm still curious as to the dates of these two animals if you know.
 
I'd like to see more collections hold Komodo Dragons,Saltwater Crocodiles and maybe Black Caiman although saying that would be unlikely as there are very few collections that hold them and there is only holding in the UK.

I would also like to see more Leopard subspecies being held such as African,Sri Lankan,Persian etc.
 
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gerenuk, gazelles, duikers, shoebill, kagu, birds of paradise, manatee, small cats, bushbuck, gharial, whoopng crane, Siberian crane, more amphibians
 
Chlidonias said:
Question for @Tim May (and it also relates back to this other thread: Gerald Durrell's African Golden Cat).

Do you know the dates for the two African Golden Cats mentioned in that longevity list? One appears to have died pretty much straight away, and the other lasted 17 months. I know in the Durrell thread you said there were no African Golden Cats listed as being acquired by London Zoo at the time of Durrell's expedition, but I'm still curious as to the dates of these two animals if you know.
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I am sorry I don't know; this is something that I have been trying to find out to satisfy my own curiosity.

I have copies of many of the ZSL Annual Reports for the date range covered by the article “Longevity Survey: Length of Life of Mammals in Captivity at the London Zoo and Whipsnade Park” (i.e. from 1930 to 1960). Unfortunately, I can find no information, in any of my Annual Reports about African golden cats being acquired by the ZSL during this period.

I have been busy recently and haven't had the opportunity to spend time in the ZSL Library to try to answer this question although that is something that I intend to do.

Incidentally, Flower (1929) lists a much earlier African golden cat at London Zoo; this was a short lived animal presented by the Earl of Derby on 2nd August 1843 and which died less than three months later on 20th October 1843.

And in the Proceedings of the Zoological Society (1907), Pocock mentions another specimen, received at London Zoo on 21st June 1906 that died in November that year.
 
Fresh blood for the drill, Verraux's sifaka, aye-aye, giant otter, babirusa and the broad-nosed gentle lemur (of course). For species that might just possibly arrive, how about bear cuscus and pygmy hog? Plus some hummingbirds and manakins too.
 
I think a good number of collections could do with holding either Bengal or Indochinese Tiger as opposed to the popular Sumatran and Siberian subspecies.
 
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Fresh blood for the drill,
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Drills- I believe all four holders of Drills in the UK are quite well placed at present with animals from different sources. Both Edinburgh and Port Lympne have received new males in the last year or two, while Bristol and Africa Alive have unrelated animals from other sources too; here's what I know about them;

Port Lympne; Original females from Stuttgart, new unrelated male from Barcelona?
Edinburgh; Female from Columbus USA. New(replacement) male from Hanover.
Africa Alive; Female from Columbus USA(sister of above female) Male from Bristol, previously from? (ex Woburn/Hanover?).
Bristol; Male from (ex Woburn/Hanover?) Females from ?

But the European population as a whole does need new blood as there are only three main lines(Barcelona, Hanover, Wuppertal) and these have been much interbred already.
 
I would like to see more holders of Sumatran Orangutan. UK is unusual among European Orangutan zoos in having such a skew towards the Bornean species, with only Chester and Jersey having breeding Sumatrans and MonkeyWorld (temporarily?) having three young animals.
 
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