Cincinnati Zoo and Botanical Garden What's Gnu at the Cincinnati Zoo - 2015

Kudu21 said:
I guess since the zoo has confirmed it on their Facebook page in an answer to a comment, Harapan will be leaving for the Los Angeles Zoo (and, from there, eventually on to Sumatra) in the impending future. No date has been set as of yet, but the move is coming.

And in additional Sumatran rhinoceros news, CREW has recently taken on research into iron storage disease, the cause of death for both Emi and Suci.

A Study to Honor Suci the Sumatran Rhino | Cincinnati Zoo Blog
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I guess that is final then!

Seems to me the most realistic policy for getting the captive Sumatran rhino of Sumatran ssp. to breed in zoos (if alone locally). I would sincerely hope the Cincin zoo sends one of their staff indefinite to Way Kambas to work alongside. Would really be something with all their expertise in reproductive science!

Iron storage disease has been a recurring health / medical issue in black rhino for quite some time. See what Cincinnati vet / medical staff make of the disease in Sumatrans versus African blacks!!!

Thanks for sharing!
 
Kifaru Bwana said:
I guess that is final then!

Seems to me the most realistic policy for getting the captive Sumatran rhino of Sumatran ssp. to breed in zoos (if alone locally). I would sincerely hope the Cincin zoo sends one of their staff indefinite to Way Kambas to work alongside. Would really be something with all their expertise in reproductive science!

Iron storage disease has been a recurring health / medical issue in black rhino for quite some time. See what Cincinnati vet / medical staff make of the disease in Sumatrans versus African blacks!!!

Thanks for sharing!
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Seems like it's for the best. It's been a privilege to be able to see these animals at my local zoo for the last few decades. It may also mark the end of the era that Cincinnati enjoyed as a mecca of super-rare species. Sign of the times, I suppose, but I enjoyed living though the great collection years of the establishment.

On a positive note, the zoo has done a good job of re-inventing itself over the years. Hopefully this trend continues in the future.

It will be interesting to see what occupies the rhino enclosures in Wildlife Canyon. One loss creates another opportunity, and I have an idea of what's to come, so it's a little exciting, too.
 
groundskeeper24 said:
Seems like it's for the best. It's been a privilege to be able to see these animals at my local zoo for the last few decades. It may also mark the end of the era that Cincinnati enjoyed as a mecca of super-rare species. Sign of the times, I suppose, but I enjoyed living though the great collection years of the establishment.

On a positive note, the zoo has done a good job of re-inventing itself over the years. Hopefully this trend continues in the future.

It will be interesting to see what occupies the rhino enclosures in Wildlife Canyon. One loss creates another opportunity, and I have an idea of what's to come, so it's a little exciting, too.
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While it is for the best it is indeed a shame to see the species leaving the zoo and thus the country.. I am so glad an honored to have been able to see the species at the zoo for myself before Suci died and certainly hope Indonesia manages to save this incredible animal even though the future seems very bleak. I do, however, have to disagree with you that Cincy's era of holding rare species has ended. While it may not hold as many as in the past, it still has many rarities such as Siberian Lynx, Cape Genet, Sumatran Banded Palm Civet, Eastern Bamboo Lemur, Grey's Crowned Guenon, Mueller's Grey Gibbon, Lion-Tailed Macaque, Feathertail Glider, Sumatran Elephant, Steller' Sea Eagle, Pigeon Guillemot, and so on.

While the zoo has done an amazing job in terms of making itself more environmentally friendly and created really great exhibits such as Manatee Springs, World of Insects, and- imo though many others may disagree- Night Hunters, it still has a long way to go before I'll consider it one of the best zoos in America again. While the collection is pretty spectacular, it still has the major issue of many of their exhibits being too packed and their enclosures too small/bad. While overall they're great exhibits, some of the enclosures in Night Hunters and Jungle Trails are truly awful for their inhabitants. Apart from the rhino and warty pig enclosures all the exhibits in Wildlife Canyon are pretty bad, too. And let's not forget the horrid Reptile House and bear enclosures as well as the highly outdated and small elephant enclosures. The zoo is certainly on the right track but it really needs to stop focusing on what it can do to expand and what new exhibits it can do and really work on fixing up the exhibits they have for the great species already in the zoo.

Personally I think the best idea would be to do Malayan Tapir for the first enclosure and then the warty pigs or babirusa in the second. I also think the zoo should really do something with that large forested enclosure neighboring the rhinos. That said, I have a pretty bad feeling that's not what's going to happen and we're going to get a pretty wasted space. Would you care to share what idea that is?;):p

~Thylo:cool:
 
ThylacineAlive said:
While it is for the best it is indeed a shame to see the species leaving the zoo and thus the country.. I am so glad an honored to have been able to see the species at the zoo for myself before Suci died and certainly hope Indonesia manages to save this incredible animal even though the future seems very bleak. I do, however, have to disagree with you that Cincy's era of holding rare species has ended. While it may not hold as many as in the past, it still has many rarities such as Siberian Lynx, Cape Genet, Sumatran Banded Palm Civet, Eastern Bamboo Lemur, Grey's Crowned Guenon, Mueller's Grey Gibbon, Lion-Tailed Macaque, Feathertail Glider, Sumatran Elephant, Steller' Sea Eagle, Pigeon Guillemot, and so on.

While the zoo has done an amazing job in terms of making itself more environmentally friendly and created really great exhibits such as Manatee Springs, World of Insects, and- imo though many others may disagree- Night Hunters, it still has a long way to go before I'll consider it one of the best zoos in America again. While the collection is pretty spectacular, it still has the major issue of many of their exhibits being too packed and their enclosures too small/bad. While overall they're great exhibits, some of the enclosures in Night Hunters and Jungle Trails are truly awful for their inhabitants. Apart from the rhino and warty pig enclosures all the exhibits in Wildlife Canyon are pretty bad, too. And let's not forget the horrid Reptile House and bear enclosures as well as the highly outdated and small elephant enclosures. The zoo is certainly on the right track but it really needs to stop focusing on what it can do to expand and what new exhibits it can do and really work on fixing up the exhibits they have for the great species already in the zoo.

Personally I think the best idea would be to do Malayan Tapir for the first enclosure and then the warty pigs or babirusa in the second. I also think the zoo should really do something with that large forested enclosure neighboring the rhinos. That said, I have a pretty bad feeling that's not what's going to happen and we're going to get a pretty wasted space. Would you care to share what idea that is?;):p

~Thylo:cool:
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I agree to a point. In my lifetime, I've seen the zoo exhibit giant eland, douc langurs, babirusa, anoa, marbled cats, Phillipine tarsiers, geladas, tasmanian devils, and many others that I've forgotten. It seems like when they get something new anymore, it's the conventional zoo usual suspects. I had great hope that they'd get a rarer antelope species for the new savannah, but it wasn't to be. I enjoy the new complex, but the species involved are pretty standard zoo fare.

As far as the empty yard, I'd bet we'll eventually see the capybara and maybe something else there. Seems logical.
 
ThylacineAlive said:
Personally I think the best idea would be to do Malayan Tapir for the first enclosure and then the warty pigs or babirusa in the second. I also think the zoo should really do something with that large forested enclosure neighboring the rhinos. That said, I have a pretty bad feeling that's not what's going to happen and we're going to get a pretty wasted space. Would you care to share what idea that is?;):p

~Thylo:cool:
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Based on the number of pools located in the right side yard, the capybara will take over that exhibit, which currently holds a Red River Hog. So that leaves this new species that has not been announced yet and based on its size and depending on the number of how many the zoo gets, they will most likely not get to use the private yard.
 
Of course, I agree with ThylacineAlive. Since I first heard rumors of Harapan's departure back in the late summer, I was hoping that Malayan tapirs would be brought in for the left and off-exhibit yard and the warty pigs moved to the right yard, leaving the warty pig yard empty to be made into an expansion of the Sichuan takin yard. Seeing as the zoo is wanting to breed them again, they could definitely use more room...

Alas, that's not to be... Though, are we certain that the capybaras and the other returning species will, both, indeed, be filling the Sumatran rhinoceros yards? I can, of course, see the capybaras fitting in to the muddy and pool-filled yard, but I still think the other yard would be better suited for the warty pigs than their current yard and their current yard better suited for the returning species...

And it is indeed, a shame to see our rarer species begin to dwindle... We are down to one bamboo lemur, one banded palm civet, one Siberian lynx, a handful of Gray's crowned guenons, a single-sex group of lion-tailed macaques, and two elderly Mueller's gibbons. When these go, they'll all be almost certainly gone from the collection permanently... And while banded palm civets are returning to the country, it has yet to be seen whether Cincinnati will continue their work with the species. The genets haven't bred again in several years and the aardwolves haven't at all... So, these species, too, will likely be lost... It's a matter of time. The times have changed. It's certainly not the 90s/early 2000s anymore. Like groundskeeper24 said, it's amazing to the think the number of species we have been so lucky to have been able to view so close-by for so long!
 
In the latest news, the zoo is selling hippo t-shirts to help fund a "brand new play space" that "will include climbing rocks, a ropes course activity area, and interactive hippo sculptures perfect for fun photo opps!" between the bat-eared fox/meerkat exhibit and the future hippo exhibit.

The zoo has also recently installed electric car chargers.
 
Kudu21 said:
Harapan will be leaving for the Los Angeles Zoo (and, from there, eventually on to Sumatra) in the impending future. No date has been set as of yet, but the move is coming.
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Why did Andalas, and now Harapan, spend time at Los Angeles? Is it to do with the ownership of the parent animals?
 
The Malayan and white tigers are now rotating between the two exhibits. This will likely be happening more often because the white tigers, being rather elderly, are having a harder time getting around their steeper exhibit with its deeper pool.
 
Kudu21 said:
The Malayan and white tigers are now rotating between the two exhibits. This will likely be happening more often because the white tigers, being rather elderly, are having a harder time getting around their steeper exhibit with its deeper pool.
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This is incredible to me, I've never been with 2 inches of a white tiger before.
 
It'll certainly be exciting to be so close to these beautiful celebrities, if you will, of the zoo! I'm also glad that they'll be able to live out their final days in the comfort of a shady, level enclosure with a pool they'll be able to get in and out of easily!

In other exciting news, today was the first day out for the painted dog pups!
 
Kudu21 said:
It'll certainly be exciting to be so close to these beautiful celebrities, if you will, of the zoo! I'm also glad that they'll be able to live out their final days in the comfort of a shady, level enclosure with a pool they'll be able to get in and out of easily!

In other exciting news, today was the first day out for the painted dog pups!
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Good news and do you have pictures of the pups out on exhibit
 
A bonobo born on March 16th went on exhibit for the first time today.
 
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