Zoo/Aquarium Hot Takes

Please I only see an average of one yak every three years I’d do anything to see them more often.
I know that feel and I feel like it's weird that zoos are willing to put watussi to their savanna sections but I barely heard of yaks in Himalayan or Asian highland exhibits. Not to mention yaks are cold tollerant making them a good candidate for zoos in, well, cold regions.
 
I don't understand why I would call you a crybaby for WdG? Because it has no meerkat or elephant? I'm not following you.
Simply put: to illustrate that it's easier to belittle an anonymous group than to face the consequences of such wording in a personal individual setting. After all, given that I had mentioned the shortcomings of an ABC species focus in a previous post shortly before, I could have been counted as a "crybaby" as well...;)
Anyway, since we all agree that it was childish, water under bridge, alea iacta est etc. etc. - let's move on.
 
“Exotic-domestic” bovines like Yak and Water Buffalo should be more common in AZA zoos. I know these are both domestic species, but their wild counterparts are basically non-existent outside of Asia (afaik) and varying degrees of threatened. Why not use domestic yaks and buffaloes to educate the general public on the plight of their wild cousins?
In a similar vein, Watusi could be displayed to educate guests on desertification in Africa, or endangered domestic breeds.
Also, I think all 3 of these animals are neat and I just want to see more of them. ;)
Please I only see an average of one yak every three years I’d do anything to see them more often.
More yaks is not something I'd complain about, but I respectfully disagree with the other two. I'm not sure what educational value water buffaloes have that can't also be achieved with wild bovid species that are found in zoos, specifically the gaur and banteng. If there's not even enough room to maintain these two programs in AZA Zoos, then I'm not sure why zoos would benefit from displaying water buffaloes instead of banteng or gaur. As for watusi, I have nothing against them, but I don't like the way most zoos display them. By housing watusi in mixed-species savanna habitats, it takes a lot of room away from many other African ungulates, many of which are also desperately in need of new holders. Desertification of Africa could be an educational message achieved with a multitude of other species, and if endangered breeds is something to be focused on, then display these animals in a more farm-like setting. Really what I don't like is zoos passing off watusi as a wild animal from the African savanna. Rather than keep watusi, I'd rather see space in these savannas dedicated to large antelope species, such as Elands, Greater Kudu, and Roan/Sable Antelope.
 
More yaks is not something I'd complain about, but I respectfully disagree with the other two. I'm not sure what educational value water buffaloes have that can't also be achieved with wild bovid species that are found in zoos, specifically the gaur and banteng. If there's not even enough room to maintain these two programs in AZA Zoos, then I'm not sure why zoos would benefit from displaying water buffaloes instead of banteng or gaur. As for watusi, I have nothing against them, but I don't like the way most zoos display them. By housing watusi in mixed-species savanna habitats, it takes a lot of room away from many other African ungulates, many of which are also desperately in need of new holders. Desertification of Africa could be an educational message achieved with a multitude of other species, and if endangered breeds is something to be focused on, then display these animals in a more farm-like setting. Really what I don't like is zoos passing off watusi as a wild animal from the African savanna. Rather than keep watusi, I'd rather see space in these savannas dedicated to large antelope species, such as Elands, Greater Kudu, and Roan/Sable Antelope.
I wasn't saying that Watusi should be kept in mixed savannah enclosures, heavens no. I was thinking something like a separate paddock off to the side to show that Watusi are NOT wild animals and that their overgrazing is a cause of desertification.
As for the water buffaloes, I know Gaur are on their way out, but I thought Banteng were on the rise? Even if they are, a few AZA water buffalo holders won't hurt anyone, right?
I just like it when water buffaloes soak in a big pond together... I want to see that at a zoo... is that too much to ask for?
 
I wasn't saying that Watusi should be kept in mixed savannah enclosures, heavens no. I was thinking something like a separate paddock off to the side to show that Watusi are NOT wild animals and that their overgrazing is a cause of desertification.

I still think that's valuable space taken up by an unnecessary species, but that's just me. Watusi are interesting in their own right but I'd rather see zoo space go to managing wild species.
 
I still think that's valuable space taken up by an unnecessary species, but that's just me. Watusi are interesting in their own right but I'd rather see zoo space go to managing wild species.
Doesn't the Living Desert have an Africa-themed petting zoo with Watusi? Something like that could work.
 
Go outside AZA, people. Tons of yak, water buffalo, watusi.

Yep! It's not there anymore (closed this past September...) but Wagon Trails Animal Park in Vienna, Ohio (one example) was non-AZA and had yak, water buffalo AND watusi. Same with Living Treasures Animal Park in New Castle, PA (a.k.a. the Moraine location) with water buffalo.
 
I wasn't saying that Watusi should be kept in mixed savannah enclosures, heavens no. I was thinking something like a separate paddock off to the side to show that Watusi are NOT wild animals and that their overgrazing is a cause of desertification.
As for the water buffaloes, I know Gaur are on their way out, but I thought Banteng were on the rise? Even if they are, a few AZA water buffalo holders won't hurt anyone, right?
I just like it when water buffaloes soak in a big pond together... I want to see that at a zoo... is that too much to ask for?

Watusi aren't even a source of desertification, overgrazing maybe yes. But Watusi are from Southern Uganda and the surrounding area. Which is 100% desert free. They are a breed of Sanga cattle, but so are all African breeds (if not crossed), so it isn't even a good breed for desertification. For which s a theme there are plenty of endangered hoofstock to pick from that do actually fit...
 
Watusi aren't even a source of desertification, overgrazing maybe yes. But Watusi are from Southern Uganda and the surrounding area. Which is 100% desert free. They are a breed of Sanga cattle, but so are all African breeds (if not crossed), so it isn't even a good breed for desertification. For which s a theme there are plenty of endangered hoofstock to pick from that do actually fit...

If we look even further we will see that any watusi in zoos is actually from the American breed that originates from the Sanga cattle.
I'd still argue that they fit in the Africa theme because their heritage is African but modern watusi are a American breed.
 
An Eastern Cottontail is much more interesting than a White-necked Picathartes? I personally don't think so, but each to their own I say.
Well, a white Southwestern Speckled rattlesnake from Yuma county is a spectacular snake. So is a freshly shed juvenile river jack from Uganda. Suum cuique, indeed.

...even though I think that more people would go on safari in North America if the local prehistoric megafauna was still alive. American Lions & Giant Short-Faced Bears & Sabertooth "Tigers", oh my. ;)Let alone giant ground sloths, glyptodons, Terror birds, giant beavers/camels/horses, mammoths, mastodons, teratorns, dire wolves...
 
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Visiting a zoo during the summer is possibly the worse time to visit a zoo (second only to the coldest days of winter). First of all the summer is when most people have time off from work and school so that’s when everything is packed. Secondly the temperature is scorching some times, even here in Finland. I’d much rather spend a day at my local zoo in January when there’s no people around. Late spring or very early summer are the best times to visit.
 
North American animals are much more interesting than African animals.
I don't think I can really call the animals of any one region more interesting than the animal of another - especially huge areas like Africa or North America.
Visiting a zoo during the summer is possibly the worse time to visit a zoo (second only to the coldest days of winter). First of all the summer is when most people have time off from work and school so that’s when everything is packed. Secondly the temperature is scorching some times, even here in Finland. I’d much rather spend a day at my local zoo in January when there’s no people around. Late spring or very early summer are the best times to visit.
In the cold climate of the Great Lakes region, summer is pretty the only time to visit zoos - I don't really have a choice! If I visit at any other time of year, all of the animals will be off-exhibit for the cold weather.
 
In the cold climate of the Great Lakes region, summer is pretty the only time to visit zoos - I don't really have a choice! If I visit at any other time of year, all of the animals will be off-exhibit for the cold weather.

Even cold-tolerant animals like bison, bears, and tigers?
 
I don't think I can really call the animals of any one region more interesting than the animal of another - especially huge areas like Africa or North America.

And of course, familiarity breeds contempt - I have long said that if the Eurasian Kingfisher wasn't a native species, and someone from the UK was shown photographs of one, they would surely assume it must be some exotic tropical species!
 
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