ZooChat Challenge Global 2023 - 10th Anniversary Special!

ThylacineAlive said:
What do you mean by this?

~Thylo
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Sorry for poor wording. For example, London's outdoor otter enclosure is fairly standard, but the indoors is very dimly lit with red light so that it appears as fully dark to the animals, and functions just like any other nocturnal enclosure (I couldn't find any images to demonstrate what I mean). If I saw the otters indoors, would that count as a nocturnal enclosure, or would it not as they also have full access to an outdoor area? :)
 
Kalaw said:
Sorry for poor wording. For example, London's outdoor otter enclosure is fairly standard, but the indoors is very dimly lit with red light so that it appears as fully dark to the animals, and functions just like any other nocturnal enclosure (I couldn't find any images to demonstrate what I mean). If I saw the otters indoors, would that count as a nocturnal enclosure, or would it not as they also have full access to an outdoor area? :)
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Just conversed with a friend of mine from London, and the otter indoors isn't a nocturnal set-up. It's essentially a nestbox with a redlight heating lamp. If it is dimly lit, the intention should be that it's to mimic a nighttime or crepuscular setting. For the most part, what does and does not count I will allow to be subjective to the player, but when submitting from lesser known or obscure displays such as this (I expect a great many of the applicable exhibits to be at least somewhat known within zoo communities), expect pushback. It's safer--and easier--to not try and push the limits on what you know does and does not count as a nocturnal exhibit.

London, for instance, has a very well known nocturnal house where you can likely just about complete this challenge alone from :p

~Thylo
 
CGSwans said:
I think so, though it’s already featured in another challenge. If you wanted a relatively common passerine for that challenge, a good option might be the Gouldian finch, which I think is probably present in at least one collection in each major population centre (@WhistlingKite24 might need to confirm for SE Qld.)

The other one that comes to mind as a potential problem is the hissing cockroaches, which I don’t *think* are present in Australia (I’ve never been much of an invert guy). Our ‘ABC’ invert is probably the goliath stick insect.
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ThylacineAlive said:
I think a finch would be good. How does Double-Barred Finch work for Australia?

I'm okay with the stick insect as a substitute.
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I agree that Gouldian Finch is a suitable alternative, as already pointed out, Australian Magpie is indeed uncommon in captivity here. Double-barred Finches aren't that common in Australian zoos despite being widespread in aviculture.

There are no hissing cockroaches in Australian zoos as far as I'm aware - the main cockroach of choice here is the Giant Burrowing Cockroach as the best alternative. However, I am in agreeance that a stick insect is the best choice overall for a Australian zoo invert - either Goliath Stick Insect or Spiny Leaf Insect/Macleay's Spectre are the most common here.
 
Great googly moogly, this challenge is absolutely LOADED!
I really liked the format for the 2022 North America Challenge, so I'm extremely happy to see it used again for the 2023 World Challenge! Looks like I'll be doing double duty in 2023!
I've been scouting out places to go ever since I saw this post last night. I have a few questions, though:
ThylacineAlive said:
8. Only one subspecies per species can be counted;
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What does this mean? Let's say I see a Sumatran Tiger and use it for "Embrace the ABC's". Does that mean only Sumatran Tigers count for this challenge now? Would an Amur Tiger at a different zoo not count? What if I see Amur Tigers at two different zoos, but then I want to use a Sumatran Tiger for "Island Hoppers"? Do Sumatran Tigers even count for "Island Hoppers"? I'm just trying to be careful here.
ThylacineAlive said:
2022: Don't Turn On the Lights
See 10 species of ANY kind in a nocturnal exhibit. The exhibit does not have to be a full nocturnal house, any reverse-lighting or purposefully dim-lit exhibit counts. If you visit a nocturnal exhibit and the lights haven't been reversed yet, that still counts!
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Is this 10 species in the same nocturnal exhibit or can I visit multiple?
ThylacineAlive said:
Any 4 crocodiles/gharials (no alligators)
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Does this mean no Chinese Alligators/Caimans?
Can't wait to get started on this one! Hopefully I can make it to some different zoos/aquariums from last year! Bring on 2023!
 
Was reading back through the first post, and I realized something I thought may be important to mention:
@ThylacineAlive: you mentioned in the OP that there are 30 challenges plus the bonus, for 31 total. Reading through, I only see 28 challenges plus the bonus. Am I reading it wrong/missing a challenge, is the number of challenges wrong, or did two challenges get left off by mistake? Probably my mistake/the number, but just wanted to double check in case a challenge or two is accidentally missing.
 
twilighter said:
@Neil chace, maybe @ThylacineAlive counts the two extra open challenges - Bovids and Turtles/Tortoise ?
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These do make better sense as standalone challenges, rather than components of others.

I get 29, by the way.

1. Penguimonium
2. Fly the Coop
3. We're Gonna Need a Bigger Trap
4. How Many Toes Am I Holding Up?
5. Let That Ruminate
6. Sea Shepherds
7. Check Your Feeders
8. Asian Songbird Challenge
9. Thylo's Top 20
10. Small but Will Fight
11. Pinni-Party
12. Carnivore Carnival
13. See, Don't Touch
14. River Giants
15. Give this Another Go
16. Don't You Forget About Me
17. Don't Turn On the Lights
18. Native Species Challenge
19. Embrace the ABCs Challenge
20. Second Chance Red List Challenge
21. Island Hoppers Challenge
22. I'm Hot Blooded (For Cold Blood)
23. Usborne's Scavenger Hunt Challenge
24. The Rio Challenge
25. The Unbearable Challenge
26. Hall of Champions
27. One-Zoo Wonder
28. Bona Fide Rarity Hunter
29. Thylo's Bonus Challenge

The numbering in the original post indicates that 2016 Part II is missing.
 
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Chlidonias said:
I got 29 plus the bonus the first time I counted, but then 28 plus the bonus the other times I counted. So I went with 28.

Edit: recounted - I still get 28 plus the bonus.
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See my above edit. :)

Edit: and only now do I comprehend that the 28 excludes the bonus challenge.
 
WalkingAgnatha said:
Is this a recent change? As I thought they still only held an off-show breeding population.
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Well they definitely used to be on show in the nocturnal house, because I saw one in there several years back. Perhaps off-show now? Not sure.
 
Chlidonias said:
Well they definitely used to be on show in the nocturnal house, because I saw one in there several years back. Perhaps off-show now? Not sure.
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I believe they're not? although I never remember seeing any of them on display in the nocturnal house, they definetley weren't when I last visited, (they had removed most of the enclosures there and the interactive pest hut, as to "increase visitor space") I believe the only small enclosures (from my last visit in January), were wetapunga, the aquarium and an added tank for common gecko which may mean they may've expanded more and added more stuff over the course of this year? But unsure what the current state is.
 
CGSwans said:
The numbering in the original post indicates that 2016 Part II is missing.
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2016 part II is Let That Ruminate.

2019 part III isn't there (based on the preceding years being all I to III).
 
WalkingAgnatha said:
I believe they're not? although I never remember seeing any of them on display in the nocturnal house, they definetley weren't when I last visited, (they had removed most of the enclosures there and the interactive pest hut, as to "increase visitor space") I believe the only small enclosures (from my last visit in January), were wetapunga, the aquarium and an added tank for common gecko which may mean they may've expanded more and added more stuff over the course of this year? But unsure what the current state is.
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Yeah, I just checked my list from when I went last year, and they weren't on show then.

So there are no Leiopelma on display in a zoo (assuming the ones at Wellington haven't gone back on display since my last visit, but they were always invisible anyway being just in a standard tank). Potentially Wellington could put them on display in their nocturnal house when it reopens, in which case they would be much more theoretically viewable.
 
Corangurilla said:
What does this mean? Let's say I see a Sumatran Tiger and use it for "Embrace the ABC's". Does that mean only Sumatran Tigers count for this challenge now? Would an Amur Tiger at a different zoo not count? What if I see Amur Tigers at two different zoos, but then I want to use a Sumatran Tiger for "Island Hoppers"? Do Sumatran Tigers even count for "Island Hoppers"? I'm just trying to be careful here.
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This rule primarily applies to the open-ended challenges. You can count different subspecies between mini-games. Sumatran Tiger, however, does not count for Island Hoppers because it needs to be a full species.

Corangurilla said:
Is this 10 species in the same nocturnal exhibit or can I visit multiple?
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Can be split up over however many exhibits/zoos as it takes.

Corangurilla said:
Does this mean no Chinese Alligators/Caimans?
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Yes :p

~Thylo
 
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