ZooChat Challenge North America 2018

Sedgwick County Zoo: 5/27/18

149. African Dwarf Mud Turtle Pelusios nanus
150. Aldabra Tortoise Aldabrachelys gigantea
151. Berber Skink Eumeces schneideri
152. Black Mamba Dendroaspis polylepis
153. Bog Turtle Glyptemys muhlenbergii
154. Broad Snouted Caiman Caiman latirostris
155. Carrot-tail Viper Gecko Hemidactylus imbricatus
156. Fly River Turtle Carettochelys insculpta
157. Giant Day Gecko Phelsuma grandis
158. Great Plains Rat Snake Pantherophis emoryi
159. Gulf Coast Spiny Softshell Apalone spinifera aspera
160. Indochinese Spitting Cobra Naja siamensis
161. Jamaican Iguana Cyclura collei
162. Mandarin Rat Snake Elaphe mandarinus
163. Northern Blue-tongued Skink Tiliqua scincoides intermedia
164. Ornate Plated Lizard Zonosaurus ornatus
165. Osage Copperhead Agkistrodon contortrix phaeogaster
166. Pascagoula Map Turtle Graptemys gibbonsi
167. Razor-backed Musk Turtle Sternotherus carinatus
168. River Cooter Pseudemys concinna
169. Rubber Boa Charina bottae
170. Sonoran Spiny-tailed Iguana Ctenosaura hemilopha macrolopha
171. Southwestern Speckled Rattlesnake Crotalus mitchellii pyrrhus
172. Venezuelan Lancehead Bothrops venezuelensis
173. Yellow-blotched Map Turtle Graptemys flavimaculata
174. Yellow-footed Tortoise Chelonoidis denticulate

Subtotals:

3 crocodilians
44 lizards
91 snakes
36 chelonians

Tulsa Zoo: 5/30/18

175. Asian Yellow Pond Turtle Mauremys mutica
176. Black Spiny-necked Swamp Turtle Acanthochelys spixii
177. Black Tree Monitor Varanus beccarii
178. Blue Spiny Lizard Sceloporus serrifer
179. Burmese Brown Tortoise Manouria emys
180. Chinese Alligator Alligator sinensis
181. Common Green Iguana Iguana iguana
182. Desert Iguana Dipsosaurus dorsalis
183. Desert Tortoise Gopherus morafkai
184. Dumeril's Ground Boa Boa dumerili
185. Eastern Indigo Snake Drymarchon couperi
186. Fiji Island Banded Iguana Brachylophus fasciatus
187. Frilled Lizard Chlamydosaurus kingii
188. Giant Leaf-tailed Gecko Uroplatus fimbriatus
189. Giant South American River Turtle Podocnemis expansa
190. Girdle-tailed Lizard Cordylus tropidosternum
191. Gopher Tortoise Gopherus polyphemus
192. Grand Cayman Iguana Cyclura lewisi
193. Green Basilisk Lizard Basiliscus plumifrons
194. Hogg Island Boa Boa constrictor imperator
195. Hosmer's Skink Egernia hosmeri
196. Indian Python Python molurus
197. Jamaican Boa Epicrates subflavus
198. Malaysian Giant Turtle Orlitia borneensis
199. Mangrove Monitor Varanus indicus
200. Mexican Beaded Lizard Heloderma horridum
201. Mojave Rattlesnake Crotalus scutulatus
202. Neotropical Rattlesnake Crotalus durissus
203. Northern Spider Tortoise Pyxis arachnoides
204. Philippine Sailfin Lizard Hydrosaurus pustulatus
205. Radiated Tortoise Astrochelys radiata
206. Red Diamondback Rattlesnake Crotalus ruber
207. Smooth-fronted Dwarf Caiman Paleosuchus trigonatus
208. Southern River Terrapin Batagur affinis
209. Spotted Turtle Clemmys guttata
210. Sudan Uromastyx Uromastyx dispar
211. Sulawesi Forest Turtle Leucocephalon yuwonoi
212. Yellow-headed Temple Turtle Hieremys annandalii
213. Yellow-spotted River Turtle Podocnemis unifilis

Subtotals:

5 crocodilians
59 lizards
99 snakes
50 chelonians
 
He just made a list of 410 different species of Reptiles, with each having a scientific name. I think he deserves a bit of slack.

Not to mention I didn't think to bold my lifers until after I'd started the list and when you copy and paste a list into the forum they put an annoying space between each line..

I hope that's all you'll get. Any more reptiles is considered cheating!

No promises! ;) There are still a few species I've been missing at Bronx on my visits this year.

~Thylo
 
Random question which may not be at all answerable, but looking at the list of @ThylacineAlive - how many reptile species would there be in American zoos in total? Is there anyone with an informed answer?

While I cannot give you a real answer, I can assure you there are a lot more than what I've seen thus far! There's even more once you look into the private trade, too..

~Thylo
 
He just made a list of 410 different species of Reptiles, with each having a scientific name. I think he deserves a bit of slack.
I disagree. I think he needs to work if he suddenly shows up in the middle of the year with 410 species.
 
I disagree. I think he needs to work if he suddenly shows up in the middle of the year with 410 species.
And I think you're being unnecessarily pedantic. Jay made a suggestion to add subtotals, but this was never made into an official rule. Why would you think people have to work? It's a game...

Besides all this, I'm impressed by the total counts already! I don't think anyone got 400 (not even sure if anyone got 300?) in the 2016 British and Belgian/Dutch challenges with the same theme!
 
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I disagree. I think he needs to work if he suddenly shows up in the middle of the year with 410 species.

I totally agree with @Vision , it was never a rule to add subtotals and Thylo clearly has put lot of work in listing the species he saw; let alone adding their binomial names for all of them. As such I think you're being very pedantic as said before and very insisting on something that was never necessary in the beginning (nor is it now).

Also does it occur to you that if maybe he just posted everything he saw, it's because he didn't have time; just discovered the topic or maybe waited to have enough additions to post? As the rules say: your word is your bond so doubting of someone only because he has been to quite some zoos (and even has photographic proof that he has been to all those zoos, look at the gallery); is quite ridiculous to me...
 
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Random question which may not be at all answerable, but looking at the list of @ThylacineAlive - how many reptile species would there be in American zoos in total? Is there anyone with an informed answer?
My reptile lifelist is about 625 right now, but considering my low frequency of seeing wild animals I’d say probably around 600 of those are captive in American collections. Based on my knowledge at what’s kept at zoos I haven’t been to (or off exhibit at those I have) I’d say a safe number is 850-900. The number is much higher when considering the private trade.
 
For the record, and to save @ThylacineAlive from having to go to the effort of defending himself further against needless, rude and provocative jibes.....

I am given to understand that the reason it took him until now to upload his total for the challenge is that until this week he was still going through his extensive notes and photographs from the trip he undertook throughout the southern USA at the start of this year - this being the source of the first 356 species in his list - as before uploading a total he wanted to ensure he had correctly identified those species which he had seen but which were unlabelled.
 
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For the record, and to save @ThylacineAlive from having to go to the effort of defending himself further against needless, rude and provocative jibes.....

I am given to understand that the reason it took him until now to upload his total for the challenge is that until this week he was still going through his extensive notes and photographs from the trip he undertook throughout the southern USA at the start of this year - this being the source of the first 356 species in his list - as before uploading a total he wanted to ensure he had correctly identified those species which he had seen but which were unlabelled.

Right you are! I haven't thoroughly gone through my photos for my zoo visits since that trip yet so the total may go up slightly due to any "to be identified" animals I've forgotten about.

~Thylo
 
Tulsa Zoo: 5/30/18

175. Asian Yellow Pond Turtle Mauremys mutica
176. Black Spiny-necked Swamp Turtle Acanthochelys spixii
177. Black Tree Monitor Varanus beccarii
178. Blue Spiny Lizard Sceloporus serrifer
179. Burmese Brown Tortoise Manouria emys
180. Chinese Alligator Alligator sinensis
181. Common Green Iguana Iguana iguana
182. Desert Iguana Dipsosaurus dorsalis
183. Desert Tortoise Gopherus morafkai
184. Dumeril's Ground Boa Boa dumerili
185. Eastern Indigo Snake Drymarchon couperi
186. Fiji Island Banded Iguana Brachylophus fasciatus
187. Frilled Lizard Chlamydosaurus kingii
188. Giant Leaf-tailed Gecko Uroplatus fimbriatus
189. Giant South American River Turtle Podocnemis expansa
190. Girdle-tailed Lizard Cordylus tropidosternum
191. Gopher Tortoise Gopherus polyphemus
192. Grand Cayman Iguana Cyclura lewisi
193. Green Basilisk Lizard Basiliscus plumifrons
194. Hogg Island Boa Boa constrictor imperator
195. Hosmer's Skink Egernia hosmeri
196. Indian Python Python molurus
197. Jamaican Boa Epicrates subflavus
198. Malaysian Giant Turtle Orlitia borneensis
199. Mangrove Monitor Varanus indicus
200. Mexican Beaded Lizard Heloderma horridum
201. Mojave Rattlesnake Crotalus scutulatus
202. Neotropical Rattlesnake Crotalus durissus
203. Northern Spider Tortoise Pyxis arachnoides
204. Philippine Sailfin Lizard Hydrosaurus pustulatus
205. Radiated Tortoise Astrochelys radiata
206. Red Diamondback Rattlesnake Crotalus ruber
207. Smooth-fronted Dwarf Caiman Paleosuchus trigonatus
208. Southern River Terrapin Batagur affinis
209. Spotted Turtle Clemmys guttata
210. Sudan Uromastyx Uromastyx dispar
211. Sulawesi Forest Turtle Leucocephalon yuwonoi
212. Yellow-headed Temple Turtle Hieremys annandalii
213. Yellow-spotted River Turtle Podocnemis unifilis

Subtotals:

5 crocodilians
59 lizards
99 snakes
50 chelonians

Oklahoma Aquarium: 5/31/18

214. Banded Water Snake Nerodia fasciata

Subtotals:

5 crocodilians
59 lizards
100 snakes
50 chelonians
 
National Aquarium in Baltimore 3/22/18:

122. Central bearded dragon Pogona vitticeps
123. Shingleback skink Tiliqua rugosa
124. Knob-tailed gecko Nephrurus laevis
125. Northern death adder Acanthopis praelongus
126. Frilled lizard Chlamydosaurus kingii
127. Northern Australian snapping turtle Elseya dentata
128. Irwin's snapping turtle Elseya irwini
129. Northern yellow-faced turtle Emydura tanybaraga
130. Saw-shelled turtle Elseya latisternum
131. Freshwater crocodile Crocodylus johnstoni
132. Eastern carpet python Morelia spilota mcdowelli
133. Water python Liasis fuscus
134. Northern Australian snake-necked turtle Chelodina oblonga
135. Kimberley snake-necked turtle Chelodina walloyarrina
136. Murray River turtle Emydura macquarri (kreffti and macquarri)
137. Diamondback terrapin Malaclemys terrapin
138. Cotinga River side-necked turtle Phrynops tuberosus
139. Big-headed sideneck turtle Peltocephalus dumerilianus
140. Smooth-fronted dwarf caiman Paleosuchus trigonatus
141. Yellow-footed tortoise Chelonoidis denticulata
142. Central American wood turtle Rhinoclemmus pulcherrima manni
143. Spot-bellied side-necked turtle Phrynops hilarii

Subtotals:
9 crocodilians
34 lizards
49 snakes
47 chelonians
Georgia Aquarium 4/19/18:

144. Pond slider Trachemys scripta (scripta & elegans)
145. River cooter Pseudemys concinna
146. Razor-back musk turtle Sternotherus carinatus

Smithsonian National Zoo 6/2/18:
147. Asian water dragon Physignathus cocincinus

National Aquarium in Baltimore 6/3/18:
148. Marbled prehensile-tailed lizard Polychrus marmoratus
149. Australian water dragon Intellagama lesueurii
150. Wood turtle Glyptemys insculpulata

Subtotals:
9 crocodilians
37 lizards
49 snakes
51 chelonians
 
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National Aquarium in Baltimore 6/3/18:
148. Marbled prehensile-tailed lizard Polychrus marmoratus
149. Australian water dragon Intellagama lesueurii
150. Wood turtle Glyptemys insculpulata

I'm surprised there weren't more hard-to-see-elsewhere species here for you, was it too packed to get around in there?
 
I'm surprised there weren't more hard-to-see-elsewhere species here for you, was it too packed to get around in there?
I visited earlier in the year (in March) and got about 20 species then.
Your subtotal is off by 4 species! ;)
:eek: I don’t know how I continue to mess it up! Anyways, I believe I should have 41 lizards and that should fix the issue.
 
Saint Louis Zoo - June 15 2018

85. Prehensile-Tailed Skink Corucia zebrata
86. Red-Bellied Short-Necked Turtle Emydura subglobosa
87. Southeast Asian Box Turtle Cuora amboinensis

88. South American Yellow-Footed Tortoise Chelonoidis denticulatus
89. Eyed Skink Chalcides ocellatus
90. King Cobra Ophiophagus hannah

4 crocodilians
17 lizards
46 snakes
28 chelonians
World Aquarium - June 16 2018

91. Two-Lined Mud Turtle Kinosternon baurii
92. Cagle's Map Turtle Graptemys caglei
93. Diamondback Terrapin Malaclemys terrapin
94. Nile Crocodile Crocodylus niloticus
95. Brown Basilisk Basiliscus vittatus

96. Green Basilisk Basiliscus plumifrons
97. Argentine Black-And-White Tegu Tupinambis merianae
98. Red-Footed Tortoise Chelonoidis carbonarius
99. Indian Spotted Pond Turtle Geoclemys hamiltonii
100. River Cooter Pseudemys concinna
101. Maputo Plated Lizard Gerrhosaurus major
102. Burmese Mountain Tortoise Manouria emys
103. Pancake Tortoise Malacochersus tornieri
104. West African Sideneck Turtle Pelusios castaneus
105. Madagascar Giant Day Gecko Phelsuma grandis
106. Mali Uromastyx Uromastyx maliensis
107. Steppe Runner Lizard Eremias arguta
108. Frog-Eyed Gecko Teratoscincus scincus

109. Green Tree Python Morelia viridis
110. Rainbow Boa Epicrates cenchria
111. Blood Python Python brongersmai
112. Nile Monitor Varanus niloticus
113. Veiled Chameleon Chamaeleo calyptratus
114. Warren's Galliwasp Celestus warreni
115. Timor Monitor Varanus timorensis

5 crocodilians
29 lizards
49 snakes
37 chelonians
 
World Aquarium - June 16 2018

91. Two-Lined Mud Turtle Kinosternon baurii
92. Cagle's Map Turtle Graptemys caglei
93. Diamondback Terrapin Malaclemys terrapin
94. Nile Crocodile Crocodylus niloticus
95. Brown Basilisk Basiliscus vittatus

96. Green Basilisk Basiliscus plumifrons
97. Argentine Black-And-White Tegu Tupinambis merianae
98. Red-Footed Tortoise Chelonoidis carbonarius
99. Indian Spotted Pond Turtle Geoclemys hamiltonii
100. River Cooter Pseudemys concinna
101. Maputo Plated Lizard Gerrhosaurus major
102. Burmese Mountain Tortoise Manouria emys
103. Pancake Tortoise Malacochersus tornieri
104. West African Sideneck Turtle Pelusios castaneus
105. Madagascar Giant Day Gecko Phelsuma grandis
106. Mali Uromastyx Uromastyx maliensis
107. Steppe Runner Lizard Eremias arguta
108. Frog-Eyed Gecko Teratoscincus scincus

109. Green Tree Python Morelia viridis
110. Rainbow Boa Epicrates cenchria
111. Blood Python Python brongersmai
112. Nile Monitor Varanus niloticus
113. Veiled Chameleon Chamaeleo calyptratus
114. Warren's Galliwasp Celestus warreni
115. Timor Monitor Varanus timorensis

5 crocodilians
29 lizards
49 snakes
37 chelonians

What a nice selection of reptiles for an aquarium! Lots of first timers for you, as they would be for me too, except Nile Crocodile and Diamondback Terrapin.
 
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