ZooChat v4 suggestions
- Thread starter Simon Hampel
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If you just want photo of Kimya why cant you just search for 'Kimya' then
I think what Jambo is saying is that there are pictures on zoochat which feature giraffes which do not include the word “giraffe” in the title, description, tags, comments etc. Jambo suggests that these specific images of giraffes will not pop up when one searches for “giraffes” on zoochat, because these images lack the “giraffe” label.
That's interesting.
I've just done a research and i've realised what i've been doing. Searching up Melbourne Zoo gorillas instead of just gorillas.
It's always brought me up this:
Search Results for Query: melbourne zoo gorillas - ZooChat
It's an example.
That's exactly my point. Those media of giraffes that lack the word 'giraffe' cannot be found which can sometimes be annoying to me.
Like a lot of you said, it is the bare minimum, but i'd personally still like to get all the results when searching rather than a selective few.
But they won't show up in his Google search either, because it is searching for the same key words. So he is just doing something with more steps for the same result.
Again,
You can get a lot of results simply by working with the search function.
I am guilty of it too and probably shouldn't be doing it in the future, especially as i've found it so annoying recently.
But that's a perfect example. If I search up 'elephants' for Melbourne Zoo, it will not come up with that image.
Your point about putting in all those tags - I get it. That's why i'm saying from this point forward it would be ideal if members could do this, just to make it easier.
And do you know where it also won't come up? Searching on Google Images using "melbourne zoo elephant zoochat".
Edit: actually it did show up there, but if you try to open that photo it just goes to the Melbourne Zoo gallery - so you'd still need to search through the gallery manually to find it. But I stand corrected by myself on the point of it "doesn't show in Google searches"!
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So everyone should humor you to make your population and speculation threads less work for you?
So everyone should humor you to make your population and speculation threads less work for you?
Not necessarily, no; but it would be better and easier for everyone.
Fair - but I've noted that most photos bearing unhelpful titles are of elephants, rhinos, apes, and whatnot, groups you're heavily involved with. Most of us are satisfied just putting "Asian Elephant bull" or "Gorilla."
Not for those who upload, and especially not for those who like myself regularly upload in larger batches. It would mean quite a bit of extra work. Not everyone, including myself, will have the time or energy or will want to do the effort of taking the extra step of tagging.
Personally I think maybe tagging should perhaps be further encouraged, but definitely should not be made mandatory. Perhaps doing something about new media uploads with unclear or unhelpful titles would be a better option than putting everyone through the added hassle of tagging.
Fair point. I usually put names to help with ID, especially for those who are interested in that sort of thing. But i've gotten to a point where I know put just names, as obviously it's an elephant; but I should be putting eg. Asian Elephant bull- Man Jai.
Yes, I agree. I don't think tagging should perhaps be mandatory (that's a little over the top); and like you said, it would take much more time for people like you to upload all of those photos!
It should be recommended at least though imo. Especially going into the future.
I believe it always has been (otherwise we wouldn't have the system in place), but nobody's interested in doing it for the most part. It's time consuming and generally unnecessary with a decent title or description. I will tag threads I start as those can be useful, but for media it's not worth it to me. And that's coming from someone who has trawled the gallery extensively for confirmations of species.
I don't understand what tagging has to do with the problem @Jambo is describing. If the word shows up in the title or description, a simple search will bring it up. If the title or description doesn't, then it won't. Isn't that more an issue of people labeling their photos improperly than of using tags?
This is the issue, yes. Which is largely related to people only labeling photos simply as the animal's given public name, as I've already pointed out upthread.