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ZooParc de Beauval Zooparc de Beauval News 2020
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Arrival of the harpies tomorrow in Beauval. It is a couple.
I leave you this link to learn more and see some photos.
Viagem inédita: harpias de Itaipu vão ganhar lar em zoológico da França - Não viu?
I leave you this link to learn more and see some photos.
Viagem inédita: harpias de Itaipu vão ganhar lar em zoológico da França - Não viu?
That is fantastic news! Let's hope the doucs aren't far behind.
The indoor home that Beauval have made them is very large as shown in the photos but the outdoor area will still need time to grow.
Yes I was.
Sorry about the confusion, I didn't make it clear, although the same applies for the harpy eagle outdoor exhibit, though I can see what you mean with the harpy eagle treehouse thing.
Is that treehouse for visitor viewing or for the eagles? It seems to be outside the mesh, but?
Oh dear. That is disappointing, I would have much preferred it to be a visitor viewing area and for the treehouse to be much larger and somewhere else
And sorry but the indoor for doucs is not large and high. The pictures don't show the reality. I am afraid the doucs will be too close to the visitors wihtout privacy for them.
Everything seems to be going wrong. Is it an issue that can be alleviated when the foliage starts to set in? You are best placed to answer because you visited most recently I suspect their home is still better than in Chleby (I know they aren't coming from Chleby).
It's not really bad but it's not really good too. The foliage ? Never. You can't put foliage in with langurs as they will eat it and it's not good for their diet. I don't know if it will be better than Chleby. Not sure because there is no shadow outside and the indoor is not so quiet (I assume it is in Chléby). We will see and expect all will be ok !
Thanks for your evaluation. I thought Singapore had foliage in their enclosure?
Foliage from their native habitat if so but Singapore is not far from it
Does it probably depend on the langur species? Afaik, proboscis monkey were kept with foliage at Apenheul (although I don't know if that was - also - a reason of the unsuccesful keeping there). And there are other langur species in a few (if not many) western zoos that were and are kept with living trees, that have their origin outside of the native habitat of the monkeys.
I have seen some zoos presenting langurs in Europe (Beauval, la Boissière, La Teste, Twycross, Rotterdam, Antwerpen, Arnhem, Wuppertal at the time) and they are not kept with foliage. The others I see on pics were doing the same. The only exceptions I know are Howletts and Apenheul but with pine trees that can't be eat be the monkeys if I am right.
@zomaniac, have you some exemples of western zoos ? Thank you for your answer
@zomaniac, have you some exemples of western zoos ? Thank you for your answer
The indoor enclosure indeed looks very narrow, but I can't agree with it not being high. Judging obviously just from the photos, it still looks like the highest reachable point has like around 4 meters I would guess, which seems perfectly fine to me. What could be argued is that there could be much more horizontal climbing because that seems lacking now...
About the lack of privacy, I would wait until full crowds to judge that properly. There is some vegetation between the visitor path and the exhibit fence, we'll see how that grows and how it will be maintained by the zoo. There are also the off-show holding pens, where could the animals potentially hide. Shaded areas in outer enclosure can be always added artificially.
@Antoine: Well, I'll try my best. Although memories can deceive, I have in my mind that at least for the Francois Langurs that was the case at L.A. (Trachypithecus francoisi) and maybe at San Diego too (new exhibit and/or old exhibit near the koalas)? Also, depending how we define "foliage" there are also (ornate, clearly not food) palm trees with leaves in the exhibit at San Antonio Zoo (San Antonio Zoo 2010 - Part of the Francois Langur exhibit - ZooChat). Looking at the satellite pictures of Zoom Gelsenkirchen, it seems as there are at least some bushes in the exhibit of the hanuman langurs. Same impression according to this picture (Apenheul on Twitter) at Apenheul.
However, there is absolutely a chance that I'm wrong (It was a question from the begining).
Although memories can deceive, I have in my mind that at least for the Francois Langurs that was the case at L.A. (Trachypithecus francoisi) and maybe at San Diego too (new exhibit and/or old exhibit near the koalas)? Also, depending how we define "foliage" there are also (ornate, clearly not food) palm trees with leaves in the exhibit at San Antonio Zoo (San Antonio Zoo 2010 - Part of the Francois Langur exhibit - ZooChat). Looking at the satellite pictures of Zoom Gelsenkirchen, it seems as there are at least some bushes in the exhibit of the hanuman langurs. Same impression according to this picture (Apenheul on Twitter) at Apenheul.However, there is absolutely a chance that I'm wrong (It was a question from the begining).