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No apologies needed, you came to a perfectly reasonable solution given I belive Cinderella doesn't yet spend time with the other newer three, though maybe a Whipsnade regular can confirm this?

They do all spend time as a group now (they were all together enjoying an enrichment feed when I was there on the 24th May which made for great views) but Cinderella can also be on her own - sometimes she's still a bit less active than the others and they seem to mix them about a bit.
 
They do all spend time as a group now (they were all together enjoying an enrichment feed when I was there on the 24th May which made for great views) but Cinderella can also be on her own - sometimes she's still a bit less active than the others and they seem to mix them about a bit.
Sorry for my own inaccuracy, but very glad to hear they are all together now as I was concerned at one point that it didn't look like it would ever be the case. My knowledge isn't the best as I haven't visited since December 2022 (hopefully I will put that right in the next few months) and in fact a lot of it is thanks to your (as well as those of other members) very helpful updates!
 
Sorry for my own inaccuracy, but very glad to hear they are all together now as I was concerned at one point that it didn't look like it would ever be the case. My knowledge isn't the best as I haven't visited since December 2022 (hopefully I will put that right in the next few months) and in fact a lot of it is thanks to your very helpful updates!

They did have a few goes at it and I wondered the same. Such a lively group too. Such a treat to have four bears. We are lucky here with a good few Whipsnade regulars!
 
The overgrown structure last held Silvery Marmosets, in I think 2010, and before them Goeldi's Monkeys and Geoffroy's marmosets. They were all allowed out to climb the nearby trees via ropes that were run from the outside of their enclosure to branches in the trees. The Silvery Marmosets became especially adventurous crossing the path to what was then a large grassy picnic area to check out the bins for any food.

Rather too adventurous for their own good I’m afraid! One or two members became “enrichment” for the chimps! This free roaming experiment has not been repeated since.
 
The overgrown structure last held Silvery Marmosets, in I think 2010, and before them Goeldi's Monkeys and Geoffroy's marmosets. They were all allowed out to climb the nearby trees via ropes that were run from the outside of their enclosure to branches in the trees. The Silvery Marmosets became especially adventurous crossing the path to what was then a large grassy picnic area to check out the bins for any food.

I also saw the silvery marmosets, just before the free-roaming exhibit was abandoned, in the former moose enclosure opposite the hunting dogs!
 
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The current warty pig enclosure was built for rhinos. Before the warty pigs, it was used as temporary accommodation for a few scimitar-horned oryx; prior to that it housed gaur and before that Indian rhinoceros.
Thanks for confirming that the oryx were there, I was worried that I was misremembering that. Presumably the gate between the two was used to connect the paddocks when Indian Rhinoceros were held, and has been unused ever since. Either way, an interesting detail that hints to the zoo's history, and it is wonderful that, even after ten visits, there are still surprises around every corner at Whipsnade.
 
Presumably the gate between the two was used to connect the paddocks when Indian Rhinoceros were held, and has been unused ever since.
To be honest, I'm not sure what gate you're referring to. I don't recall ever seeing the current warty pig enclosure connected to the nearby Indian rhino enclosure.
 
I finally saw the Spiny Hill-turtle (although from what little I could see of its smooth shell in its shelter, you would be left to question how 'spiny' is the appropriate adjective).
Google images of baby Spiny Turtles to find out why. They look quite different to adults.
 
To be honest, I'm not sure what gate you're referring to. I don't recall ever seeing the current warty pig enclosure connected to the nearby Indian rhino enclosure.
I seem to remember there is a pair(?) of 'kissing' gates(unused) between the two paddocks, maybe that's what is being referred to. Or am I wrong on that...
 
I seem to remember there is a pair(?) of 'kissing' gates(unused) between the two paddocks, maybe that's what is being referred to. Or am I wrong on that...

Yes they are in the picture Kalaw posted...there are gates at either side of the walkway that cuts through to the elephants. If they were not joined together as a paddock, perhaps they are emergency exits / just end access to both enclosures? The way they are built would touch the other side if they were opened in opposite directions, which could form a 'funnel'.
 
I seem to remember there is a pair(?) of 'kissing' gates(unused) between the two paddocks, maybe that's what is being referred to. Or am I wrong on that...
Yes they are in the picture Kalaw posted...there are gates at either side of the walkway that cuts through to the elephants. If they were not joined together as a paddock, perhaps they are emergency exits / just end access to both enclosures? The way they are built would touch the other side if they were opened in opposite directions, which could form a 'funnel'.
Yes, those were the gates I was referring to. As Lafone mentions, they are positioned so that, if both open, they could connect the two enclosures, which is what led me to believe they were intended to connect the enclosures. It seems as though they were never actually used.
 
To be honest, I'm not sure what gate you're referring to. I don't recall ever seeing the current warty pig enclosure connected to the nearby Indian rhino enclosure.

I seem to remember there is a pair(?) of 'kissing' gates(unused) between the two paddocks, maybe that's what is being referred to. Or am I wrong on that...
Yes they are in the picture Kalaw posted...there are gates at either side of the walkway that cuts through to the elephants. If they were not joined together as a paddock, perhaps they are emergency exits / just end access to both enclosures? The way they are built would touch the other side if they were opened in opposite directions, which could form a 'funnel'.
Sorry I overlooked "@Kalow's" photograph, thank you for bringing it to my attention; now I understand exactly what gate is under discussion

I've no recollection of ever seeing that gate opened to connect the two paddocks although, of course, the enclosures could have been connected when I've not been visiting.

However, bear in mind that the enclosures sometimes housed different rhinoceros species (Indian in one, black in the other) so they would then have been kept separate.
 
Sorry I overlooked "@Kalow's" photograph, thank you for bringing it to my attention; now I understand exactly what gate is under discussion

I've no recollection of ever seeing that gate opened to connect the two paddocks although, of course, the enclosures could have been connected when I've not been visiting.

However, bear in mind that the enclosures sometimes housed different rhinoceros species (Indian in one, black in the other) so they would then have been kept separate.

I may be able to elaborate Tim.

These kissing gates are a recent addition, added whilst the new GOH Rhino stables were being built. Ive also never seen them closed, but I’m certain the adjoining paddock (now housing the warty pigs) housed the breeding bulls Jaffna and, to a lesser extent, Hugo at some point when the cows Behan and Beluki were in season
 
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I mayt be able to elaborate Tim.

These kissing gates are a recent addition, added whilst the new GOH Rhino stables were being built. Ive also never seen them closed, but I’m certain they’ve housed the breeding ates Jaffna and, to a lesser extent, Hugo at some point when the cows Behan and Beluki were in season
Thank you. I didn't realise these gates were a relatively recent addition.
 
I may be able to elaborate Tim.

These kissing gates are a recent addition, added whilst the new GOH Rhino stables were being built. Ive also never seen them closed, but I’m certain the adjoining paddock (now housing the warty pigs) housed the breeding bulls Jaffna and, to a lesser extent, Hugo at some point when the cows Behan and Beluki were in season
Strange to think that the current warty pig enclosure once held rhinos. The outdoor paddock would be fine, but they would barely have been able to move within that indoor space - it was too small for the gaur as well, but an excellent fit for the warty pigs. How recently were Jaffna and Hugo kept in that space?
 
Strange to think that the current warty pig enclosure once held rhinos. The outdoor paddock would be fine, but they would barely have been able to move within that indoor space

Claustrophobic enough that, as a child, I clearly remember watching visitors pet and feed one of the rhinos (likely Roopa) with hedge clippings through the iron bars of the the stable hard standing!
 
Claustrophobic enough that, as a child, I clearly remember watching visitors pet and feed one of the rhinos (likely Roopa) with hedge clippings through the iron bars of the the stable hard standing!
Off topic to a degree (and about another zoo, no less) but that anecdote reminds me of when Marwell's white rhinos were temporarily moved to a smaller house while the new African exhibit was being developed. I distinctly remember the bull on the hard standing outside the house and pushed up against the singular set of (admittedly heavy duty) iron bars that separated him from visitors. Being the child I was at the time, I went right up to said bars and put my hand on his flank.

Obviously that decision ranges from questionable to unbelievably stupid depending on who you ask (certainly I am the latter). But it's hard to describe what that experience was like for a child obsessed with animals but who rarely got to see them, and most definitely not close like that. There are few things that can compare.

I was also reminded of that experience when Hugo walked underneath the bridge between the outdoor paddock and his house while at Whipsnade last year. Definitely a more recommended way of experiencing how truly awe-inspiringly huge rhinos are.
 
Strange to think that the current warty pig enclosure once held rhinos. The outdoor paddock would be fine, but they would barely have been able to move within that indoor space - it was too small for the gaur as well, but an excellent fit for the warty pigs. How recently were Jaffna and Hugo kept in that space?

I remember the Indian rhino housing BEFORE they moved into this area. It was near the Giraffe house and is now an empty space. The indoor buildings there were rather like two suburban garages/lock-ups, really small. Then when they moved to this 'new' area I was surprised at how small/primitive the new building that had been created for them still was- having seen Indian rhinos housed in European collections in far superior accomodation. As mentioned, the Indian rhino absolutely filled the indoor areas, and the outdoor yards were equally tiny, while the gravelly paddock was not idea either. The pair in here were Kumar and Roopa who bred several times. At this stage they were the only pair in the UK. Fortunately the current Indian rhinos have far better outdoor areas at least, plus the rhinos of Nepal building...the old black rhino paddock also still seems frequently to be used for Hugo the bull as mentioned above. (I think Hugo and before him Jaffna only used the old black rhino paddock, not the left hand one?)
 
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