North American Common Hippopotamus Population

RhinoHippoElephantGiraffe said:
These are my personal naming suggestions for the new calf at Cincinnati Zoo:

Male names:
- Shrek (Fiona is named after Fiona from Shrek)
- General (born the general weight of a newborn hippo, unlike Fiona)
- TJ (Tucker Jr.)

Female names:
- Melanie/Melonie (born on World Watermelon Day)
- Phoebe (named after mom Bibi and half-sister Fiona, but different spelling)
- Queenie (Cincinnati is known as "The Queen City")

Unisex names:
- Zuri (means "beautiful" in Swahili) (my #1 name choice)
- Finley (sounds similar to Fiona)
- Tebogo (Swahili for "we are thankful")
- Tubby (Tucker and Bibi's names combined)

I really DON'T want the baby hippo to get named "Kiboko", because 4 hippos already have that name.
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This is a very unnecessary post in this thread - first of all, chances are quite high the calf will not be given any of these names (frankly some of these suggestions would make pretty bad names imo). Secondly, we don’t even know if the calf’s gender so we’re really getting ahead of ourselves here. Even if we did know, posting random suggestions in a population thread is not necessary in the least. Like you’ve been told before, please keep this thread limited to actual news and relevant discussion.
 
RhinoHippoElephantGiraffe said:
It is interesting to know that Ignacio is neutered, but he did sire four calves, Pancho (1999-2007, Ellen Trout), Genevieve (2000, Adventure Aquarium), Tucker (2003, Cincinnati), and a stillborn male (2003).
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There are individuals that are excluded from the breeding program due to age/medical issues. but I do not know if they are technically spayed/neutered.
 
RhinoHippoElephantGiraffe said:
According to Wikipedia, the Cincinnati Zoo's baby hippo is female.
Fiona (hippopotamus) - Wikipedia
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Jambo said:
You trust wikipedia?

That site can be edited by absolutely anyone.

I'd be waiting for a specific announcement from Cincinnati myself if I was you. It could take quite some time before a gender is identified though, especially if mum is protective of her calf.
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Any information on Wikipedia can be verified if you have access to the reference (in most cases, a link to a website).

As mentioned in the Cincinnati thread, the Wikipedia reference (18) to the calf being female was provided via this link (which like every other media release, does not state the gender of the calf): Fiona's a big sister. New baby hippo born at Cincinnati Zoo
 
Jambo said:
You trust wikipedia?

That site can be edited by absolutely anyone.

I'd be waiting for a specific announcement from Cincinnati myself if I was you. It could take quite some time before a gender is identified though, especially if mum is protective of her calf.
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Wikipedia is generally more reliable than actual encyclopedias because of the larger numbers of editors. It certainly isn't always right but it is quite reliable for getting the gist of information.

That being said, that doesn't mean a detail like this is right - but in general Wikipedia can be trusted - especially since you can usually see the original source of the information at the bottom of the page.
 
RhinoHippoElephantGiraffe said:
The Wikipedia page has been updated to say "half-sibling" instead of "sister".
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As a general guideline, most can agree:

1. The population thread should be for information relating to the births, deaths, pregnancies (pregnancy announcements, not weekly updates) and transfers of the region’s Common hippopotamus.

2. Low key news (pregnancy updates, management updates) can be posted in the news thread for that specific zoo if you think it would be of interest to people. An example would be announcing Bibi’s calf was now considered full term, considering her previous premature birth; or that she’d been separated from Tucker/Fiona.

3. Discussion and speculation (where you think hippos will be transferred etc) can be posted in this thread: North American Common Hippopotamus Discussion/Speculation

4. The editing updates of a Wikipedia page belong nowhere (especially in this case where we’d all long figured out what went on); but at a stretch, it’d be acceptable to mention in the Cincinnati thread to amend/acknowledge your previous announcement it was a female calf.
 
Are there any Common Hippos in North America that are currently owned by a facility, other than the place where they live? (e.g in the animal studbooks, another zoo/facility sometimes already have ownership of that baby animal on the day they were born)
 
RhinoHippoElephantGiraffe said:
n the animal studbooks, another zoo/facility sometimes already have ownership of that baby animal on the day they were born)
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This is the case when one of the calves parents were loaned from another zoo for breeding. In return, the other zoo gets ownership of any offspring born to that individual.
 
Jambo said:
This is the case when one of the calves parents were loaned from another zoo for breeding. In return, the other zoo gets ownership of any offspring born to that individual.
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Most contracts I've seen specify a split of the offspring between the loaning zoo and the receiving zoo. It works best in species that have litters, but would presumably rotate in species like hippopotami that have a single offspring. It's all kind of moot given they're all part of a breeding programme and nothing is truly owned in the sense they're not bought or sold.
 
I mean, ownership technically does count in that facility can recall animals it owns, over-riding even breeding recommendations or the host facilities desires, should the owning facility so desire.

Also how it works in regards to animals that usually produce single offspring, it can rotate, but that is a bit variable depending on the facility, and each loaning facilities loan requirements. Let’s say dad is owned by A, mom by B, and they live at C, it could be all the calves born at facility C get owned by facility C, or it could even be so complicated as that it might take 4 to 5 births before facility C has an animal born that they actually get ownership over.
 
Hyak_II said:
I mean, ownership technically does count in that facility can recall animals it owns, over-riding even breeding recommendations or the host facilities desires, should the owning facility so desire.
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Using Orcas for an example; Seaworld owned Ikaika but loaned him to Marineworld in Canada. They felt he wasn't receiving adequate care, and so abruptly requested for him to be transferred back to Seaworld.

Cincinnati owns Fiona, and despite the fact she may receive a breeding recommendation in the future, she won't be sent anywhere. They can chose to not follow the breeding recommendation as it's only really a 'recommendation'.
 
The Cincinnati Zoo is holding a contest to name their new male hippo either Fritz or Ferguson. The winning name will be announced on this coming Monday, August 15th. I personally dislike both of those names, since they aren't very unique names for a hippo.
 
RhinoHippoElephantGiraffe said:
The Cincinnati Zoo is holding a contest to name their new male hippo either Fritz or Ferguson. The winning name will be announced on this coming Monday, August 15th. I personally dislike both of those names, since they aren't very unique names for a hippo.
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This information does not need to be noted here, because the name of an individual hippo is irrelevant to the status and sustainability of the nationwide common hippo population. Please keep these discussions in the Cincinnati Zoo News thread.
 
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