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ZooNews2024 said:
Is there any actual evidence to link fireworks to the death? - other than just the timing perhaps, and a 'belief'.
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In the statement the zoo put out about Roxie's death, they said their vet team determined stress from the noise was the most likely cause. Granted, losing her mother five days earlier probably didn't help either.
 
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polarbear said:
It always amazes me when zoos themselves have firework displays - it would be hard to enforce near zoos if all zoos didn’t follow this.
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Agreed, I find it absolutely baffling. Also when zoos run events late after closing times, lanturns etc, often accompanied by bright lighting and music. Usually against the wishes of the keepers.
 
Jambi said:
In the statement the zoo put out about Roxie's death, they said their vet team determined stress from the noise was the most likely cause. Granted, losing her mother five days earlier probably didn't help either.
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I think that , at least in part - the Zoo should have been mindful because of the fireworks and the loss of her mother and either isolated her someplace else and/or given a keeper authority to watch her at night on standby (the same way Alison used to do with the giant pandas, particularly Tian Tian during certain times).
 
jtrbmvcq said:
Agreed, I find it absolutely baffling. Also when zoos run events late after closing times, lanturns etc, often accompanied by bright lighting and music. Usually against the wishes of the keepers.
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Devils advocate, but as far as I am aware there’s never been any complaints about these sorts of events - while I agree any fireworks / loud music is a no no, as I’ve mentioned before when the zoo used to hold events like the giant lanterns etc it used to bring in money/positive publicity/engagement for the zoo.
 
Jambi said:
This is absolutely awful to hear, I unfortunately didn't get to see Roxie on my last visit, but from what I've seen she was such a lovely little baby and it upsets me that she died so early and in such an awful way.
I hear a lot of stories like this every November about people's pets dying of fright because of the fireworks. While I do think there should be some tighter legislation on the sale and use of them, fireworks are still a centuries old tradition that brings communities together, so I don't see the public taking any increased restrictions on them very well, and there definitely would be fierce push-back if it happens.
Whenever I see a post on Facebook about how fireworks affect animals or a post about someone's pet being scared to death, there's always one person in the comments who's like "UM WELL ACTUALLY YOU'RE WRONG" and "Just let people enjoy things you bloody Karens!"
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Fireworks at community events are fine and that can bring people together and respect tradition. There's no reason for people to buy them and set them off individually and it's a pain across all sorts of communities every year. Banning them outside displays would fix the problem of misuse and allow people to enjoy them too. As for people who comment about their freedoms being abused by that sort of rule, if they didn't want to let them off in the street they wouldn't need to be bothered by the restrictions.

Sad news about the young panda and a stupid way to have lost any animal.

But I would add it's a much bigger and sadder issue than this one at edinburgh suggests in isolation;

Romford: Family of woman killed by firework arson 'massively affected'.
 
GeeZee said:
Devils advocate, but as far as I am aware there’s never been any complaints about these sorts of events - while I agree any fireworks / loud music is a no no, as I’ve mentioned before when the zoo used to hold events like the giant lanterns etc it used to bring in money/positive publicity/engagement for the zoo.
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GeeZee said:
I think that , at least in part - the Zoo should have been mindful because of the fireworks and the loss of her mother and either isolated her someplace else and/or given a keeper authority to watch her at night on standby (the same way Alison used to do with the giant pandas, particularly Tian Tian during certain times).
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Yes - it does seem a rather strange and vague comment by the Vet team, when full post-mortems would normally be done.
If no other animals in the collection were affected, given the other underlying issues, it could be as likely that the cub simply died from the same cause as its mother - especially given the timing.
Regards the loud music - do not other zoos like Yorkshire Wildlife Park hold pop concerts?
 
ZooNews2024 said:
Yes - it does seem a rather strange and vague comment by the Vet team, when full post-mortems would normally be done.
If no other animals in the collection were affected, given the other underlying issues, it could be as likely that the cub simply died from the same cause as its mother - especially given the timing.
Regards the loud music - do not other zoos like Yorkshire Wildlife Park hold pop concerts?
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Some do, I’ve never been so I don’t know how loud it is - but I know Longleat often have concerts, come to think of it - I’m pretty sure they have had a full music festival in the past.
 
Took a stroll crisp autumn stroll around the zoo today and a few things to note.

  • there’s a transport crate in the rhino enclosure at the top end suggesting Qabid’s move is happening rather soon.
  • There was a female Asiatic lion in the smaller pen at the top of the enclosure. Jay was in the larger outside enclosure being very vocal. I didn’t know a female had arrived so I assume it will be announced in the coming days.
  • There also is a new red panda called Priya in with Kevyn in the enclosure behind the penguins. She arrived from ZSL Whipsnade zoo last month. Both her and Kevyn were very active today. She also happens to be Bruce’s granddaughter (the male panda by the entrance) her mother was Ginger.
  • Lucu the Sumatran tiger was in the smaller of the two enclosures with female Dharma no where to be seen. I know they rotate the two between the enclosures but they never seem to introduce them. Anyone know why?
  • Theres a sign on Cleo the cheetah’s old enclosure saying something exciting is coming soon - hopefully some more cheetah!
  • Saw the Drill male mate two of the females today so hopefully some young Drill soon.
  • Hippo calf Haggis was inside with mum Gloria with dad Otto locked outside. Otto is yet to be introduced to Haggis. Mum and baby are doing well.
  • No sign of either of the cassowary birds today are on my last visit. Signs were up for them but no sightings!
  • Sun bear Babu was very active. Digging around the enclosure and climbing the structures outside. Seem’s comfortable enough given her diagnosis. Hopefully a while left in her!
  • Akiko the pallas cat had access to both outside enclosures but only the former armadillo section inside. The former binturong part has a sign up saying something is coming. Perhaps binturongs could be returning soon.
  • There was a transport crate in the turkmenian markhor enclosure. Are these guys due to move on soon? Once they go, the zoo will hopefully prep the exhibit for the mysterious new species they’ve teased us about for months.
Not animal related but the Gannet restaurant has been refurbed with a new kids soft play area within it.

overall, a very nice visit with the highlight being young Haggis and getting so close to Danling the Chinese Goral!
 
Charliemarwell said:
There was a transport crate in the turkmenian markhor enclosure. Are these guys due to move on soon? Once they go, the zoo will hopefully prep the exhibit for the mysterious new species they’ve teased us about for months.
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Are the markhor in the giant panda enclosure?
 
Charliemarwell said:
Took a stroll crisp autumn stroll around the zoo today and a few things to note.

  • there’s a transport crate in the rhino enclosure at the top end suggesting Qabid’s move is happening rather soon.
  • There was a female Asiatic lion in the smaller pen at the top of the enclosure. Jay was in the larger outside enclosure being very vocal. I didn’t know a female had arrived so I assume it will be announced in the coming days.
  • There also is a new red panda called Priya in with Kevyn in the enclosure behind the penguins. She arrived from ZSL Whipsnade zoo last month. Both her and Kevyn were very active today. She also happens to be Bruce’s granddaughter (the male panda by the entrance) her mother was Ginger.
  • Lucu the Sumatran tiger was in the smaller of the two enclosures with female Dharma no where to be seen. I know they rotate the two between the enclosures but they never seem to introduce them. Anyone know why?
  • Theres a sign on Cleo the cheetah’s old enclosure saying something exciting is coming soon - hopefully some more cheetah!
  • Saw the Drill male mate two of the females today so hopefully some young Drill soon.
  • Hippo calf Haggis was inside with mum Gloria with dad Otto locked outside. Otto is yet to be introduced to Haggis. Mum and baby are doing well.
  • No sign of either of the cassowary birds today are on my last visit. Signs were up for them but no sightings!
  • Sun bear Babu was very active. Digging around the enclosure and climbing the structures outside. Seem’s comfortable enough given her diagnosis. Hopefully a while left in her!
  • Akiko the pallas cat had access to both outside enclosures but only the former armadillo section inside. The former binturong part has a sign up saying something is coming. Perhaps binturongs could be returning soon.
  • There was a transport crate in the turkmenian markhor enclosure. Are these guys due to move on soon? Once they go, the zoo will hopefully prep the exhibit for the mysterious new species they’ve teased us about for months.
Not animal related but the Gannet restaurant has been refurbed with a new kids soft play area within it.

overall, a very nice visit with the highlight being young Haggis and getting so close to Danling the Chinese Goral!
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A very comprehensive list of updates- thanks! Didn't even think to look around for another lion after seeing Jay indoors so missed that one!

I noticed a couple of extra points on Saturday:

- transport crates in with the warty pigs that are in the old Tapir enclosure by the rhino.

- another baby nyala has been born recently, so there are now 2 in there.

- the Vysian spotted deer fawn is very active too.

- seems word in the street is that the Pallas Cat is best viewed after about 2pm.
 
Charliemarwell said:
Took a stroll crisp autumn stroll around the zoo today and a few things to note.

  • there’s a transport crate in the rhino enclosure at the top end suggesting Qabid’s move is happening rather soon.
  • There was a female Asiatic lion in the smaller pen at the top of the enclosure. Jay was in the larger outside enclosure being very vocal. I didn’t know a female had arrived so I assume it will be announced in the coming days.
  • There also is a new red panda called Priya in with Kevyn in the enclosure behind the penguins. She arrived from ZSL Whipsnade zoo last month. Both her and Kevyn were very active today. She also happens to be Bruce’s granddaughter (the male panda by the entrance) her mother was Ginger.
  • Lucu the Sumatran tiger was in the smaller of the two enclosures with female Dharma no where to be seen. I know they rotate the two between the enclosures but they never seem to introduce them. Anyone know why?
  • Theres a sign on Cleo the cheetah’s old enclosure saying something exciting is coming soon - hopefully some more cheetah!
  • Saw the Drill male mate two of the females today so hopefully some young Drill soon.
  • Hippo calf Haggis was inside with mum Gloria with dad Otto locked outside. Otto is yet to be introduced to Haggis. Mum and baby are doing well.
  • No sign of either of the cassowary birds today are on my last visit. Signs were up for them but no sightings!
  • Sun bear Babu was very active. Digging around the enclosure and climbing the structures outside. Seem’s comfortable enough given her diagnosis. Hopefully a while left in her!
  • Akiko the pallas cat had access to both outside enclosures but only the former armadillo section inside. The former binturong part has a sign up saying something is coming. Perhaps binturongs could be returning soon.
  • There was a transport crate in the turkmenian markhor enclosure. Are these guys due to move on soon? Once they go, the zoo will hopefully prep the exhibit for the mysterious new species they’ve teased us about for months.
Not animal related but the Gannet restaurant has been refurbed with a new kids soft play area within it.

overall, a very nice visit with the highlight being young Haggis and getting so close to Danling the Chinese Goral!
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I would suppose the question now is where is Qabid going to ?
 
Good news about Babu, it’s a bit odd though back at the AGM in June it was made out like she may not last till the end of the month and nearly 6 months here she’s still doing fine, despite some other sad deaths at the zoo.
 
Does anyone know what going to happen to the Asiatic Lion are they going to move it or bring in a new female to form a new breeding programme.
 
Based on previous responses on this forum I believe a new female Asiatic Lion is already on site in the top enclosure :)
 
The zoo map has been updated again, some of the changes include:

  • Cheetah and Indian Rhino have been removed, with the latter's area marked as under construction
  • Pallas's Cat and Alpaca (in a new enclosure between the magic forest and living links, unsure if Alpaca have actually arrived yet or are just signed) have been added
  • Cape Porcupine have been moved to the previously long term vacant enclosure between the Scottish Wildcats and Gelada
  • The male Visayan warty pigs have been moved from the enclosure next to the Indian Rhino to the enclosure the Cape Porcupines have just vacated
https://images.rzss.org.uk/media/Ed...49.1496838943.1732743638-699076569.1727541911
 
Quincey said:
  • The male Visayan warty pigs have been moved from the enclosure next to the Indian Rhino to the enclosure the Cape Porcupines have just vacated
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The pair of warty pigs that were in the paddock across from the rhinoceros are actually a male and female.
 
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