Hevden
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Another life tick today thanks to a long staying Cornish bird and another year tick thanks to a reintroduction programme.
215. Hudsonian Whimbrel
216. Cirl Bunting
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Another life tick today thanks to a long staying Cornish bird and another year tick thanks to a reintroduction programme.
215. Hudsonian Whimbrel
216. Cirl Bunting
A few more I had forgotten to add/have picked up:
Birds
105) Little Egret Egretta garzetta
106) Grey Heron Ardea cinerea
107) Eurasian Nuthatch Sitta europaea
108) European Green Woodpecker Picus viridis
109) Eurasian Kestrel Falco tinnunculus
110) Eurasian Tree Sparrow Passer montanus
~Thylo
Birds
111) Red Kite Milvus milvus
Mammals
22) European Rabbit Oryctolagus cuniculus
~Thylo
Birds
111) Red Kite Milvus milvus
Mammals
22) European Rabbit Oryctolagus cuniculus
~Thylo
Finally, a rabbit - I was getting worried for you!
I'm intrigued by some of the things that aren't lifers for you, despite this being your first time outside the US. Do Red Kites turn up as vagrants or naturalised birds in the US? (or is it just fiddly doing bold type on the move?
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573) Common Stonechat
574) Eurasian Hobby
575) Common Crossbill
66) Sika Deer
21) Common Toad
jbnbsn99
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Finally, a rabbit - I was getting worried for you!
I'm intrigued by some of the things that aren't lifers for you, despite this being your first time outside the US. Do Red Kites turn up as vagrants or naturalised birds in the US? (or is it just fiddly doing bold type on the move?
As far as I know, none have ever been seen in North America.
there's quite a few birds which should be lifers and he has indicated they aren't, so I think he's just having trouble with the bold. Either that or he is treating species as non-lifers if he has seen them in zoos in America.I'm intrigued by some of the things that aren't lifers for you, despite this being your first time outside the US. Do Red Kites turn up as vagrants or naturalised birds in the US? (or is it just fiddly doing bold type on the move?
Ah, yes - or, of course, UK zoos that were earlier in the trip (birds of prey, egrets, shelducks - all zoo-y species).
Finally, a rabbit - I was getting worried for you!
I'm intrigued by some of the things that aren't lifers for you, despite this being your first time outside the US. Do Red Kites turn up as vagrants or naturalised birds in the US? (or is it just fiddly doing bold type on the move?
I actually saw rabbit on my third day but kept forgetting it
As Chlidonias suggested I'm not counting species I've seen in captivity as lifers, though they are wild lifers. The kite I actually saw at Cotswold the day before I saw it wild
~Thylo
jbnbsn99
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I actually saw rabbit on my third day but kept forgetting it
As Chlidonias suggested I'm not counting species I've seen in captivity as lifers, though they are wild lifers. The kite I actually saw at Cotswold the day before I saw it wild
~Thylo
But that's not how lifers work.
How so? Yes they are wild lifers but as I keep track of species I've seen wild and captive they are not life lifers. I know most people still count them as lifers if it's a wild first but I choose only to do so when it's really the first time I've seen them ever.
~Thylo
And a few additions
The following are from Anglesey and RSPB South Stack (31/5/2016), there was also a Pipit I am still in the process of identifying:
82. Red-billed Chough Pyrrhocorax pyrrhocorax
83. European Stonechat Saxicola rubicola
And some from Snowdonia (1/6/2016), including the second time I've ever seen a wild reptile:
84. Common Raven Corvus corax
85. White-throated Dipper Cinclus cinclus
Reptiles:
1. Common Lizard Zootoca vivipara
From the National Trust's Bodnant Gardens (2/6/2016):
86. Grey Wagtail Motacilla cinerea
87. European Jay Garrulus glandarius
And finally from RSPB Conwy (2/6/2016):
88. Reed Warbler Acrocephalus scirpaceus
Finally another update...
Seen at Seahouses Harbour (30/7/2016):
89. Common Eider Somateria mollissima
90. Sand Marten Riparia riparia
All from a walk around Lindisfarne (1/8/2016), I also have a bird I'm yet to identify (if I get too stuck I will upload a picture):
91. Common Redshank Tringa totanus
92. Goosander Mergus merganser
93. European Golden Plover Pluvialis apricaria
7. Grey Seal Halichoerus grypus
One from Beadnell (3/8/2016):
94. Common Ringed Plover Charadrius hiaticula
One from a reservoir somewhere in Northumberland (not a planned trip to it, I just happened to be passing; 6/8/2016):
95. Common Tern Sterna hirundo
How so? Yes they are wild lifers but as I keep track of species I've seen wild and captive they are not life lifers. I know most people still count them as lifers if it's a wild first but I choose only to do so when it's really the first time I've seen them ever.
~Thylo
I have effectively two separate lists for tetrapods - one is all species seen, wild and captive, and the other is wild only (and also includes fish and inverts) - so for this thread's purposes my lifers are additions to the second list, regardless of whether they were new additions to the first.
At the end of the day it's your own list so it's up to you, but you're doing yourself out of lifers, man! Lovely boldness!
jbnbsn99
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How so? Yes they are wild lifers but as I keep track of species I've seen wild and captive they are not life lifers. I know most people still count them as lifers if it's a wild first but I choose only to do so when it's really the first time I've seen them ever.
~Thylo
For a birder, a lifer can only come from wild birds. I made a comment to another birder once about keeping a list of animals I'd seen in captivity as a lifer, and they doubled over in laughter.
Birds
428. Red-billed buffalo weaver
429. African spotted creeper
430. Greyish eagle owl
431. Allen's gallinule
432. African pygmy goose
433. White-winged widowbird
434. White-billed starling
435. Rueppel's black chat
436. Verreaux's eagle
Mammals
67. Bale green monkey
68. Oribi
69. Swaynes Hartebeest
70. Bright's gazelle
71. Gelada ssp. obscurus
72. Nile grass rat
Bale green monkey was mammal species 200 in the wild for me
Currently in Oromiya region but because of all the social unrest (protests against government with military killing people), I am moving out and will go to Afar soon. In this region there are not too many new birds (and Gerenuks
) to be seen, but in Afar there still are.
I don't see how it makes much of a difference since this isn't an official competition. I can go back and list them as lifers if necessary, though.
~Thylo
Birds
111) Red Kite Milvus milvus
Mammals
22) European Rabbit Oryctolagus cuniculus
~Thylo
Three more I forgot about (I have to stop saying 'oh I'll remember this no need to write it down'):
Birds
112) Great Cormorant Phalacrocorax carbo
113) Common Moorhen Gallinula chloropus
114) Eurasian Coot Fulica atra
Now for some very nice seabirds and some others picked up today:
115) Common Gull Larus canus
116) Eurasian Redshank Tringa totanus
117) Eurasian Oystercatcher Haematopus ostralegus
118) Arctic Tern Sterna paradisaea
119) Common Swift Apus apus
120) Eurasian Golden Plover Pluvialis apricaria
121) Red Knot Calidris canutus
122) Sanderling Calidris alba
123) Ruddy Turnstone Arenaria interpres
124) Dunlin Calidris alpina
125) Roseate Tern Sterna dougallii
126) Sandwich Tern Thalasseus sandvicensis
127) Common Eider Somateria mollissima
128) Sand Martin Riparia riparia
129) Common Chaffinch Fringilla coelebs
130) Eurasian Skylark Alauda arvensis
131) House Martin Delichon urbica
132) Arctic Skua Stercorarius parasiticus
133) Common Tern Sterna hirundo
134) Purple Sandpiper Calidris maritima
135) Common Ringed Plover Charadrius hiaticula
136) Black-Legged Kittiwake Rissa tridactyla
137) Northern Fulmar Fulmarus glacialis
138) Mistle Thrush Turdus viscivorus
Mammals
24) Grey Seal Halichoerus grypus
~Thylo
it doesn't make any difference - it's your list so you decide what counts as a lifer. If you were listing both captive and wild animals in your year list then that would be a different matter, but just lifer vs non-lifer is of no importance.
Imagine a Big Year for captive animals though! It could turn out huge.
I *do* keep track of my captive year-totals, for my own enjoyment
though this is partially due to the format of the spreadsheet on which I record my captive lifeticks; it is just as easy to include columns for each year I have been keeping track of my captive life-totals, and note which years I have seen a given taxon, as it is to merely list the species themselves.- Status