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When do you think the Asiatic Lion cubs will be shipped out? They must be coming up to 2 years old now, do you think Twycross will get one of them considering Kamal is being moved to Bristol?

Do you think the adult lions will be allowed to breed again with the same male, or do you think he's already well represented with 4 near adult cubs?
 
Is there something of a shortage of Sumatran tigers in captivity at the moment? Chester have been trying to get a female for ages, and now it sounds as though Edinburgh are having trouble sourcing any surplus animals.

Maybe there aren't any young/breeding age surplus anywhere just at the present time. It can happen with any less common species.
 
Is anyone planning a visit to Edinburgh zoo this year, he asked in vain trying to get this thread back on track!;)
 
Kiang, I was planning to to visit Edinburgh to see Budongo whilst it is still planted ;) but i think i have to postpone it until next year due to other trips (zoo and non-zoo alike)...

(second step to getting the thread back on track :p)
 
If you are coming up leave it till the end of March once Budongo is open and up and running.
 
I'm coming in May, combining with a trip to the Isle of May to see the puffins. Not HWP though, that is just too far for me :(
 
I'm aiming for early July: I hope to go back to the Bass Rock for the gannets too. I want to go on to the Highlands and HWP because I'd like to see the kiang and their other specialities.

Alan
 
From Edinburgh Zoo website it states that the Budongo Trail is scheduled to be open to the public by summer 2008. It has it's offical opening on the 4th of March. I will try to get photo's to post when I go to the official opening.
 
From Edinburgh Zoo website it states that the Budongo Trail is scheduled to be open to the public by summer 2008. It has it's offical opening on the 4th of March.

What's going on between 4th March and 'the summer'?-it seems quite a long interval when its in use but not open to the public. It sounds like it may well eventually knock Chester into 2nd place as far as having the top Chimpanzee exhibit in the UK.
 
What's going on between 4th March and 'the summer'?-it seems quite a long interval when its in use but not open to the public. It sounds like it may well eventually knock Chester into 2nd place as far as having the top Chimpanzee exhibit in the UK.

It wouldn't surprise me, considering the island at Chester isn't fully utilised and the house is 20 years old. However, Budongo could well turn out like Gorilla Kingdom and be a disappointment (I doubt that though ;) )

Is there any concept plans for Budongo? All I can find is a small image that isn't very distinguishable...
 
. However, Budongo could well turn out like Gorilla Kingdom and be a disappointment (I doubt that though ;) )

I don't think so either. With a decent group of active chimps, which don't just sit around waiting to get back indoors like the London gorillas it should be a winner. I haven't seen any photos of Budongo at all.

I've also noticed how the Chester chimps tend to underuse their island too- rarely climbing the poles etc unless there is a 'punchup'. Usually they just sit along the wall near the indoor area.
 
I think though, that for a while, chester will still have the best group of Chimps...

Agreed. It will take Edinburgh a long while to increase their group to equal Chester's in size- as Chimps are slow breeders and slow growers I'd reckon it will take 10 years at least...probably more- unless they add more adults which I doubt somehow.
 
Just read my e-mail from Ian Valentine at Edinburgh, this guy keeps pulling the new animals out of the bag, just arrived this weekend are North American tree porcupine, which i presume will go in the now vacant red panda enclosure. The Japanese serow are going into the vacant takin enclosure and their enclosure will be used for a new group of swamp wallabies, which will be ideal with the koala/Australian aviary right next door.
I had asked him for his reactions to the macaque shooting and the Amur tigers leaving and to both he reacted with "tomorrows chip papers", and i guess that sums it up!
He did acknowledge that there will be a gap when the Amur tigers head north as Sumatran tigers are not available at the moment, and their enclosure will possibly be used by the jaguar or Amur leopard in the short term.
 
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as Chimps are slow breeders .....

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The ones at Wellington Zoo are anything but !

it must be the continual strong winds in Wellington or something :)
 
Edinburgh Chimpanzee group.

as Chimps are slow breeders .....

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The ones at Wellington Zoo are anything but !

it must be the continual strong winds in Wellington or something :)

I didn't phrase it very well. Chimps are certainly very free breeders and in a large group like yours at Wellington you can easily get overpopulation.

But Edinburgh are listed with 6.5 and I think that number includes only a couple(?) of breeding females. With long gestation and rearing periods, each can only have (at the very most) around three infants in ten years (that's if all survived)- which only gives an increase of half a dozen or so so, plus maybe also one or more younger females starts to breed during that time.

A target group of 40 Chimpanzees will take Edinburgh an awful long time to achieve with the existing stock (perhaps more like tweny years?). However, if they added (say) six additional females, it would be a different matter. Pity they can't have the Dudley Zoo chimps(6/7 all female...)
 
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Does Edinburgh Zoo keep mixed/hybrid chimpanzees or 1 of 3 recognized subspecies (the latter have more conservation value breeding wise)?
 
A group of 40 chimps would be a site all living together hopefully like chester mixed age ranges - regarding gelda babbons how many have they got and the sex ratio ?
 
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