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hi what me and my mum cant understand is well firsat we live 5 mine from the zoo so go alot but if they can aim to shoot it how come they cant aim to dart it ??? also the papers in edinburgh go on about rabies lol omg the antis will have a field day yes ok there could of been a chance of rabies but it never had them and how the hell did it get out is there not like a safety door like you go in one door close it and then in to where the monkey was as well dont think they would be going right in be side the monkey so does thast not mean maybe a 3rd door to where the monkey was
To dart an animal is not as simple as shooting a bullet. Vets would have to ensure a correct dosage and then the dartsman would have to aim (and then hit) an area on the monkey with a large amount of muscle mass (the rump is a good example)
There may have been saftey doors, but seeing as it was a primate it probably took the time to find an oppurtunity or a weakness, then worked on it until there was a chance of an escape.
ok i see but still mean if 1 can get out what other animals more dangeris can get out
That is very true, you just have to look to the case at Whipsnade late last year when 2 chimps escaped.
If you were referring to a carnivore, I'm sure there are alternative quarantine methods than there is for quarantining a primate...
However zoo escapes are nothing new, especially regarding primates (big and small) who have the intelligence and skill to figure out various escape methods, whereas other creatures would not have the patience.
I saw a female Hamadryas Baboon successfully recaptured at Chester Zoo in 1987, but in a lot of cases darting may not be an option. Escaped animals are unpredictable and as with Whipsnade I'm sure every possible option was considered before the macaque was killed.
With the Chester Baboon she was a young female who was being harrassed by the older females and when a keeper opened the door to enter the enclosure she jumped over him and got out.
As CZJimmy says above, she was intelligent enough to work out how the door opened and the best place to wait so she could jump through the opening..
I've heard lots of stories about escaped animals at various zoos, most are recaptured without any bother. These include wallabies, orang utans, zebras, deer, parrots and emus.
With the Chester Baboon she was a young female who was being harrassed by the older females and when a keeper opened the door to enter the enclosure she jumped over him and got out.
As CZJimmy says above, she was intelligent enough to work out how the door opened and the best place to wait so she could jump through the opening..
I've heard lots of stories about escaped animals at various zoos, most are recaptured without any bother. These include wallabies, orang utans, zebras, deer, parrots and emus.
Did it ever come out exactly how those Chimps got out of the enclosure at Whipsnade?
Not to my knowledge, I was keeping track of any news as well. Perhaps the investigation is still ongoing?
They must have known pretty quickly.... I have wondered(wondered, mind you, no proof
) that it could have been due to a human error(NOT a critisism mind you) and that it was quietly 'hushed up' as there was never an explanation of what happened. Of course, that may be a totally fabrication of what really happened but to anyone who does not like reading any sort of rumour/conjecture/ hypothisis on this site, I'd say all these are bound to crop up in a case like this where no information has been forthcoming. 
) that it could have been due to a human error(NOT a critisism mind you) and that it was quietly 'hushed up' as there was never an explanation of what happened. Of course, that may be a totally fabrication of what really happened but to anyone who does not like reading any sort of rumour/conjecture/ hypothisis on this site, I'd say all these are bound to crop up in a case like this where no information has been forthcoming. 
It seems as though Edinburgh is making headlines left right and centre these days.Zoo's list of species decreases as Siberian tigers make tracks - Edinburgh Evening News
You are right. Never go to zoo without your mum. And never stay in zoo after closing hours. It is not publicly said, but in the evening many animals get out and go around the zoo grounds looking for free meal. Zoo staff tolerates this, because it keeps feeding cost down.
Well, many simply come back. That is, once they eaten their fill.
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Just read that article - what a load of rubbish. And some of those people who left comments seem to be utter ******! Edinburgh Zoo "dumbing down" by only keeping common animals? What, because they don't have any tigers, gorillas or sealions at the moment? I guess these people missed the Honey Badgers and the Wolverines. Oh yes, and the UK's only Koalas, more evidence of a zoo in decline that doesn't keep any unusual species!!
I'm sure it's true that a number of species have left. But I think that almost all of them have been the birds and reptiles that had to go to make way for the new Budongo exhibit for chimps.
I hope that some new accommodation for birds and reptiles etc is planned.
Alan
I hope that some new accommodation for birds and reptiles etc is planned.
Alan
My god, Edinburgh "dumbing down"? You got to be kidding me, any zoo in the world would drool over their animal inventory and since i've been there in 2002 they received a huge amount of unusual species adding to those they allready have. Those people have absolutely no idea 
On the other hand, i do understand that their allready little reptile and aviary sections are all gone, which does lay the focus on their (imo massive and impressive) mammal list..
On the other hand, i do understand that their allready little reptile and aviary sections are all gone, which does lay the focus on their (imo massive and impressive) mammal list..
just to jump back a bit to the animal escape,,,,,,,,,,,,,darting the macaque may not have been as simple for all the reasons mentioned, but you have to bear in mind too the time it takes for the sedative to have an effect, if any. if the animal posed any sort of perceived or real threat to public safety, this window of time might be too long. in addition, darting the animal could have resulted in it becoming either more agitated and aggressive, running away and being lost or dying accidently. a ****** scenario all round.
just to steal the thread for 2 seconds, would love to have been at Taronga Zoo on either the day the clouded leopard got out or a bongo, when staff had to phyically restrain the animal by its horns to prevent it jumping into the kodiak bear enclosure moat!!!!!
just to steal the thread for 2 seconds, would love to have been at Taronga Zoo on either the day the clouded leopard got out or a bongo, when staff had to phyically restrain the animal by its horns to prevent it jumping into the kodiak bear enclosure moat!!!!!
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